what some of the locals think...

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lcoverdale said:
The irony of it all is that we (as in us on this forum) are all part of the problem (as we are the tourists), we all want to be in ibiza but yet we dont want anyone else there to spoil it, just seems kind of contradictory.
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I feel this too, but surely its down to politicians etc. to set limits on visitor numbers, hire cars, clamp down on unlicensed holiday lets etc.

I've stayed in an airbnb before but having thought about the impact its having on the locals i wouldn't do it again.
 
How would they manage the capping of numbers? Wouldn't it just be a case of the people with the biggest wallets paying their way onto the island.
 
No doubt prices would go up, bad news for the likes of myself, i find it hard to justify in season anymore but ive no doubt that less flights, less available cars and making it harder or risky to rent property illegaly would lessen numbers on the island, improve the traffic problems of recent times and mean property owners are less likely to rent to tourists freeing up accomodation to young working local people who don't own property but don't earn that much.

Im going back in September this year but the last two years ive gone in early May and loved it. Much quieter but definitely not dead and very affordable.
 
Maybe it would help spread the load. If July and August capped out and prices became nutty then more people would be tempted to go earlier/later in the season.

Either way something clearly needs to be done.
 
This one inspired on Blue @ Ü... Probably the most annoying promoter, along with Hyte, when it comes to stickers on the cars...

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(Brut = dirty)
 
jimmiz said:
seriously,what is happening to ibiza since a few years is really,really sad to see.
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I could answer this question by using a line from Independence Day...

"They're like locusts... They're moving from planet to planet (island to island)... their whole civilisation!! After they've consumed every natural resource, they move on... And we're next!!!!!!!!"

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I always used to think how funny it was that residents would stick club stickers on their cars, nearly every car you see has a pacha, space, amnesia etc sticker on... you saying its the promoters doing it? Thats a bit out of order! I stuck a Amnesia sticker to my fridge once, and it was a right bugger to get off when I tried to sell it!
 
McRackin said:
:arrow: Furious Ibiza residents hit back at 'tourism abuse'
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totally agree with this article, just surprised it has taken until now for residents to start making and issue out of it.

IMO both San An and PDB are the problematic areas, both have turned into british/youth ghettos during the summer where the tourists think they can get away with anything they want to. However i partially blame the lax authorities who either seem to turn a blind eye or dont have the will power to really enforce nuisance issues and I guess its because of the income and jobs that the negative tourism brings.

Ive said this before in a previous post, how would british locals (including those who post on this forum) feel if say 50,000 spanish youths invaded their town in the summer and got up to what British (and other nationalities) youths get up to in the 2 main 'youth orientated' resorts??

I didnt bother going to ibiza this year for the first time in 20 odd years primarily as a result of the over commercialism and exploitation of tourism on the island. No doubt i will return but will seek something more authentic (if there is such as thing) next time i make a trip.
 
Tbh i thought San An was pretty chilled out in September when I visited recently. Can imagine its still a riot July/August though. At least the chap it that article makes it clear they don't blame tourists but the politicians and business owners. I agree with this, nobody should feel bad or that they shouldn't go on holiday, just try and be respectful when you are there.
 
Only saw the odd issue in San An this year and I was there a lot, I agree, it felt really chilled to me, I really enjoy staying there.

PDB just seems to get worse for me, you literally can't talk 3 yards without being hassled in some way, not aggressively but it's still a ball ache.

Some of the behaviour from all nationalities is poor, no doubt about that, speaking Spanish, or at least having a go makes a huge difference.

End of the day, rightly or wrongly it's about money, they do need tourism but Generally I have found the people one the island to be very tolerant.
 
San An did seem more chilled this year even in peak Season. West End has all but died with early closings (comparatively speaking of course). There are loads more year-round residents in San An than PDB so in some ways it takes a lot less to cause major aggravation there.

PDB has been going steadily further and further to the dogs for years now - place is full of petty criminals and junkies, many with bad attitude. I'm always 3 times more "on my guard" there than in San An now. Can't relax, no fun for more than a fleeting trip in. Only draws for me to even go into Bossa are the odd beach party, Sankeys (maybe, once in a blue moon), and the flyboard !
 
experienced no direct aggro but old/wise enough to know how to avoid it anyway. we spent all of 11 minutes in the west end for a toilet break (carrer st agnes?) and that was probably enough... saw no evidence of any police clampdown and the aggressive props on the street were almost intimidating you into their bars. I have no idea how it will change but the existing tourism model is a post-war dinosaur, a throwback to the Franco goldrush years when the emphasis was bums on seats rather than quality. So it is good that the spanish are rethinking how the town is marketed to the world, but I guess there are still too many commercial interests who want to leave things intact. That said, I really enjoyed it on the whole. To reiterate what others have said, if you put some effort in with Spanish/Catalan it massively helps differentiate you from the mongs.
 
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