The building formerly known as Space --> HÏ Ibiza

Ha ha - had to reply after reading some of the replies today especially as it's relevant to this discussion. My mate used to follow Sasha and Digweed around the country in the mid '90s when they used to run the Babelicious nights. I'd tag along mostly because I'd like to get f**ked up. Initially, I had no idea who was playing and no interest to be honest as the tunes were good and so were the beans. I eventually got to recognise them as they played some tiny venues in village halls, as well the popular clubs and venues in the SE of the UK (Zap, Hastings Pier etc). I remember, early on in these trips being in the gents and chatting the usual sh*t to the guy next to me. 'What's your name?' I asked, 'John' he replied. 'Oh that's funny, my name is Jon too', I continued: 'What do you do? ' As he zipped up and walked to the sink, he replied': I'm a DJ'. Fast forward 15 mins and I'm back in the dancefloor and I look up to the DJ booth to see the same guy behind the decks. Never forgot what Digweed looked like after that!

From my perspective, I never used to pay much attention to who was djing, but I do now as I'm older and don't go clubbing much so it's a way of picking what I hope so be the best night.
 
stivi said:
true, but that's not the point. whether you believe it or not, lots of people have absolutely no idea who plays at some of those parties, but they go anyway. they made a video about this last year and interviewed a few people outside the club. you'd be stunned to see the answers when they were asked 'who are you going to see today?'

believe me, those nights I mentioned are popular because of a certain style of music that's played, a certain vibe. not because of one or two DJs.
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Thats true...i like el row but dont know half the djs
 
Life of Rye said:
But you must have remembered a particular DJ on that first ever night. A certain hour or 2 of someone's set
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Not in ibiza. We are talking about completely different era. You went to space,knowing from what you had heard back home that it was going to be a party like no other,it started in the morning for f*** sake!,same with amnesia and Ku. These clubs kept the rave scene going long after it had died out back home. You went for the club,and it's reputation ,it didn't matter a f*** who was playing... just turn up on the door with your mates and your drugs..
 
And back home if you were going to an illegal rave,you had a meeting place ,then followed the car in front. No dj line up.

A lot of the raves in the early 90s you had a general idea,but it was very underground you heard about them through pirate radio,word of mouth,from your mates older brothers or sisters. No superstar djs,although some of those are now. I personally stayed away from the big raves 92 - 95 . It was either bagleys or some dark junglist venue..

And lastly,what has always attracted me to a venue is its reputation and music policy. Not Whether a big name was going to show up for a hour.
 
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Thats the thing tho sometimes you are excited to see a certain dj and then u see them and they are not on form that nite or are boring that nite, then u leave a bit disappointed;)
 
So is Steve Lawler (ViVa) going to HÏ or is that just a rumour? He seems to have quite a bit of Ushuaia dates too with Ants.
 
Life of Rye said:
The DJs run the show not the club
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Clubs make DJs. Without a Club, a DJ is nothing.
Space made Cox, not Cox Space.
Amnesia made Väth, or Sankeys made Solomun and there are more.

Ushi is not a club, Ushi is an open air stage. Artist go there to play the stage.
You can easily have the last nights of the proms there and I bet people will have more fun.
 
The1likejose said:
And back home if you were going to an illegal rave,you had a meeting place ,then followed the car in front. No dj line up.

A lot of the raves in the early 90s you had a general idea,but it was very underground you heard about them through pirate radio,word of mouth,from your mates older brothers or sisters. No superstar djs,although some of those are now. I personally stayed away from the big raves 92 - 95 . It was either bagleys or some dark junglist venue..

And lastly,what has always attracted me to a venue is its reputation and music policy. Not Whether a big name was going to show up for a hour.
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No of course I get that. I thought we were talking about todays Ibiza

To me it seems these days that people go to a night for the line-up and it doesn't matter what club they are at. Spin on that is that all the clubs are good none the less

Dj's will go where the monies are and clubs are paying it. Maybe some of the nights such as Ants could get away with unknown Djs due to the reputation that night has got. People will put their trust in Ushuaia to ensure the night is good. But does Ushuaia put their trust in unknown DJs to do the job required?
 
And just to add that my local 'underground' but not quite underground, Taste the punch have just announced an event they are organising with headliner Solardo. You can see the hype it has generated on their social media

Though they have in March an event with Pete Tong, Icarus and B.Traits yet not much excitement around that and in a club with a 1000 capacity there are still tickets available....

Solardo will sell out once tickets are released
 
Life of Rye said:
No of course I get that. I thought we were talking about todays Ibiza

To me it seems these days that people go to a night for the line-up and it doesn't matter what club they are at. Spin on that is that all the clubs are good none the less

Dj's will go where the monies are and clubs are paying it. Maybe some of the nights such as Ants could get away with unknown Djs due to the reputation that night has got. People will put their trust in Ushuaia to ensure the night is good. But does Ushuaia put their trust in unknown DJs to do the job required?
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while you're right up to a certain extent, I find it very dangerous to generalize.

as said before, a far bigger chunk of the people inside ibiza's clubs than you probably think aren't there because of the line up. every year we have lots and lots of 'ibiza virgins' and a lot of them are pretty clueless (saying this without any negativity, give them a few years and they'll be the forum gurus on here heheh :) ). they go to elrow, cream, ants, zoo project etc because they read about it and friends telling them to go there.

on the other hand, there are quite a lot of folk that go to a certain venue religiously, no matter what night is on. pacha is such an example - you'd be surprised how many people go there various times over the week, even though the music of maceo plex and bob sinclar is really quite different. ushuaïa too because they simply like that style and because it's the same music style pretty much all week (except saturdays of course).

lastly, it's also generalizing to say DJs will go where the monies are. if that were the case, we'd seen more parties moving venues this year. of course the artists want to make a good deal, but more often than a lot on here think, higher paid offers are being turned down because moving would involve a risk...or simply the artist is happy where he is and happy with what he earns there, period.

see, you're not essentially wrong, but it's just not as simple as you say.
 
Moondust said:
Wasn't it £500 a set at DC10 at some point??
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correct. I'm pretty sure it's not the case anymore nowadays, but AFAIK it's still one of the venues that, compared to lots of others, pays pretty low fees. the artists are happy - for any 'underground' DJ, being able to have a dc10 residency under their belt is still a massive bonus in their CV (and will earn them higher fees elsewhere then).
 
We were in a small sweaty room on the 3rd floor last night it felt like a basement:confused:. A red light and blue light and that was it.. oh yeah dj+84 people and STD(space to dance)
Can't feel my legs today..:)
 
stivi said:
correct. I'm pretty sure it's not the case anymore nowadays, but AFAIK it's still one of the venues that, compared to lots of others, pays pretty low fees. the artists are happy - for any 'underground' DJ, being able to have a dc10 residency under their belt is still a massive bonus in their CV (and will earn them higher fees elsewhere then).
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I know a few people who do precisely this. I think everyone in people in house music is well aware that they are in a financial fourth division compared to the EDM megastars, but then the difference is money was never the driving force. I think people are aware that there is a finite market for the underground and that the only real money comes from festivals and licensing these days.
 
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