when you spend €12 on a beer, how much is going into the club owner's pocket?
€11,50 would be my guestimate
Saying that i bet San Miguel & Estrella are tempted to whack up the wholesale prices, for the clubs, knowing how much they take the p1ss!!!
today a little bird told me amnesia will open at 11pm for all the parties...let's see if this is true (and i'm not sure if this has been posted before, sorry if yes)
do you think that will make a difference... do you think anyone will actually want to go out at 11:00??
...Im American heading over in June and is looking forward to the fun.
Thats why i go to party and have a good time.
I wanna drink when i wanna, shop when i wanna ,and club at night.
My only problem was the shutting down of music during the day at small beach bars and regular bars.
That will suck.Most americans come to Ibiza to party and let loose all around, not to site see...
...WE WANNA PARTY DAMNIT!
do you think that will make a difference... do you think anyone will actually want to go out at 11:00??
now you know it matey.....i didn't know boat parties where illegal?
Ibiza is changing coz its not a good thing for the people from ibiza anymore... I love clubbing and I love going out in Ibiza... there are so many special places and most of the time the atmosphere is just sooo good.
But I was born in Ibiza and i have been living there for a long time... And its just getting too big.. Its not posible to accomodate everybody like before. There are too many problems, excess and abuses...
Ibiza has been welcoming people from all over the world to come and party and have a great time enjoying what the island has to give... but now its getting bigger each year and its more about the masses and the money... so they are just starting to look a little bit more for their convenience.
And don't misunderstand me... Ibiza owes a lot to the people that has been coming.. and couldnt live without tourism... But the spirit of ibiza was about the mix between the people from the island and the people coming enjoying the place... and freedom... now its too big to let the people do what they want... having free parties with a hundred hippies isnt the same as with thousands of clubbers... it s mess..
So what I think Ibicencos want is just to try to cut a little bit all the abuses..
And I think they deserve it.
The spirit of ibiza remains in the people that loves ibiza for what it really is... (not a clubbing theme park or clubbing island..) There will be good clubs and good parties to go as long as this people is here... and I dont think they will leave just because there are some changes in clubbing schedules....
If you think ibiza is only about the capacity of the clubs... the 24h party... the names of the djs.. and the crazyness... next time you go try to discover what it really is..
"...
South Beach clubs face tougher noise rules
Commissioners are siding with residents instead of businesses
in dealing with noise in South Beach.
Posted on Fri, May. 16, 2008
In a blow to the South Beach nightlife industry, city commissioners took steps toward
beefing up Miami Beach's noise ordinance in two big ways on Wednesday.
As it stands now, the city can temporarily shut down clubs and restaurants
for a weekend after the business's fourth noise violation.
Under the proposed change, the gathering spots could be closed for the weekend
upon their second violation.
The new ordinance also allows noise heard from 100 feet away during the entire day,
not just at night, to be the basis of a noise violation.
The upshot is that clubs, bars, hotels and restaurants could rack up fines
and weekend suspensions sooner than before because there will be less leeway.
Wednesday's unanimous decision was preliminary. A second reading is set for June 25.
Between now and then, nightclub operators face challenges in turning the tide in their favor.
Commissioners said they were swayed more by residents -- who complained
they couldn't sleep because of the noise -- than by club and restaurant owners
and hoteliers, who said the new rules would drive them out of business
and that the existing law works just fine.
''Residents need to be able to sleep at night and up to now, they can't,''
said Commissioner Jonah Wolfson, who initiated the changes.
`To me, it doesn't make sense to have three warnings. Warnings are a courtesy.''
Commissioner Ed Tobin dismissed the key economic argument
made by club owners and hoteliers.
''I just don't think we accept the fact that by changing the noise ordinance
we'll put you out of business,'' he said.
He said only three businesses have faced temporary weekend suspensions this year
because of noise violations ...
More than 40 people attended the two-hour debate, which featured sniping
between two groups that have been warring about noise in South Beach for years:
residents and nightlife purveyors with young hipster allies.
''We're tired of listening to the same retirees who knowingly moved
to an entertainment district and want to stop the music,''
said ..., who owns two hotels in South Beach.
... an elderly resident shot back:
``We're hearing the same thing about retirees who shouldn't be living here.
I'm not an old fart.''
He added: ``The noise ordinance doesn't work. I think you know that very well.''
..."
(miamiherald)
Steve Hulme, international manager of Pacha Recordings, the club's label offshoot, says the clubbing community is responding positively to the new laws.
"Initially people were crying foul," he says. "But it has had the effect of forcing clubs to program incredible talent [as] they now have a limited time to program. That has meant more premier-league DJs being locked in for more dates than ever before."
( Ibiza Plots 2008 Party Island Comeback )