Its not hated.
Make Privilege big again
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Its not hated.
Digital2013
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Its not hated just many of of us doubt that a 10k capacity club has a future, its a big space to fill regularly
How was it doing before covid? I guess the fact that 2 years of lockdowns completely wrecked it financially kind of answers that, but it's been around since the 80s if you include KU, why are so many people here skeptical about its economic viability?
not sceptical of its own individual viability (although that is a monumental task in itself), but sceptical of the cumulative demand spread across all the island's venues
ie. from all of the other clubs currently open without Privilege, you need to find 10,000 people (or close enough) each night once it reopens. Either those 10,000 extra need to be attracted to Ibiza (which, despite being unlikely, would cause it's own problems) or they get taken away from the dancefloors elsewhere
Digital2013
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Since approx 2010 it was only ever full for one off events like Radio1 and Resistance. The Vista club is of course a lot smaller so did ok but with the main room even if you got a 5k crowd which is huge for Ibiza it looks half full. Its also an aging venue and I'd imagine maintenance costs are high.
stivi
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first off, I don't think anyone here hates privi, quite the opposite.
the years when privi was full to the brim - mostly once per week when manumission was on - were the years when most clubs on the island weren't open every night yet. back in the day each club used to have at least one night off.
nowadays every club is open 7 nights in a row, plus the main difference is that you've got MORE venues now. ushuaïa wasn't around, nor destino, nor chinois. it really is a pretty different ball game now compared to privilege's glory days.
4tothefloor
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Not sure why you think that. A lot of us have had great times in there, even quite recently. They have had a succession of ownership issues, it needs a lot of money spending on it and it is a bugger to fill, but it can be done. While there is a lot more competition these days, clubbing in San An is practically dead, but neither San An or Privilege fit the gentrification of the island agenda - it’s a big concrete and metal warehouse in the middle of nowhere. It’s also a nightmare to get in and out of. But Vista is a nice space and when the club is full, it has a great atmosphere.
I wish Hi was built on the privilege footprint. It’s a bigger size and would give it a larger capacity while enabling people to be able to move easier. But I guess the Matutes wanted the Space site because of it’s location.
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4tothefloor
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Me too, me too. Good times. Manumission, Cream, Resistance, technoclub, xtravaganza also all used to get big crowds regularly. It can be done, even with the new competition.
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We went to P only once for Resistance in 2018, and it was one of the best clubbing experiences ever. The huge area, lots of places to relax , light and sound were perfect .
the only problem was very rude security. By the way, Ibiza‘s clubs security vary , some are really nice (Pacha ), some are real a..holes (Hi, DC, Ushuaia) . I don’t whether it is training or what, but we have seen different attitudes depending on a club.
the only problem was very rude security. By the way, Ibiza‘s clubs security vary , some are really nice (Pacha ), some are real a..holes (Hi, DC, Ushuaia) . I don’t whether it is training or what, but we have seen different attitudes depending on a club.
DelMarSunset
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Armin regularly sold it out with his residency
i don't think it can. For numerous reasons - as Stivi says above, the clubbing landscape on the island has changed significantly. There are now more venues and those venues are open 7 days a week. This was never the case when Priv was attracting big numbers. So where do the extra people (10k) come from?
Also, a big attraction of the club back in the day was the uniqueness of it compared to other venues on the island - the size, the pool etc etc. These days the production in the vast majority of the clubs is off the scale (visuals at Hi, the madness of Elrow etc) so i think the big USP of Priv has now disappeared.
Lastly, i don't feel there are many promoters/events that could fill the club on a weekly or regular basis........a couple of one off events then yes, both electronic and pop music, but no chance a promoter fills that club week in week out across a summer season. Never mind that they would need 7 promoters/nights to do that every week.
It was great back in the day, some fantastic nights in there for Radio 1 etc etc, but thats just not where the current clubbing landscape is now.
Namaste
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I wouldn`t consent, that we have more venues now. In fact, there are quite less venues today than, let`s say in the mid 90`s.
Glory`s, Angel`s, Studio54 in SanE and even 2 little Clubs in Cala Llonga Mr.Cairo and Hollywood, all gone. And there are many other little places all over the Island which does not exist anymore.
Diversity 30 years back was much greater than today.
Today, there are only a handful of venues left, where punters worship USB-sticks and wave their phones in the air.
Regarding KU, their downward spiral already started in the early 90`s, when they were forced to put a roof on the venue for the first time and it flew away shortly after installation due to an unpleasant autum storm.
Now it is realy a shame to see what is left.
jimmiz
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We even had 2 clubs in Portinatx!
stivi
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if we are talking numbers of venues, you are of course right.
I alluded to the total capacity the venues have alltogether and it is much bigger now with all the daytime venues.
and yes, of course the diversity was far bigger back then.
The Sun God
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5-10 years ago I thought it was pretty much game over but there are various leftfield alternatives now for those who can be bothered to support those parties. See my previous posts on this
I think it will be a success under a new lease of life. They will use the space well and I’d guess at a much smaller capacity than the current 10k, they will be putting too much money into this project for it to fail. Whether the older people who went to Privilege back in the day like it, is another question and I guess they won’t, they will have similar views to Hi.
that i have no doubt, but it is cause for concern for other clubs and promoters, for whom the punters will be taken away from
For me, it isn't a question of whether Privilege's replacement will be a success, it's a question of how it disrupts the ecosystem
4tothefloor
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It depends what it becomes and what events they put on. It never attracted huge numbers every night, this is a recent thing.
Reality is that some nights in some clubs have outgrown their venues.
While other clubs have opened, many have shut and San An is now practically a no clubbing zone.
If Resistance can work there, other club nights and events can work there. But it depends how they programme it. Space to move would be nice if some events from Hi, Amnesia, Ushuaïa, and maybe Pacha were to move. And maybe the existing clubs will have to get used to not being able to run a 7 day programme in limited space, as that is a relatively new phenomena that is only making a handful of people very wealthy. While too much competition is a risk, it could be a good thing where capacity and pricing is concerned.
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Digital2013
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There are some events that are absolutely roadblocks during and July and August but don't forget they also run in June, September and October and most promoters like to run in one venue all year.
For example if you moved say Music On to 'new Privilege' theres an opportunity to sell more tickets than Pacha does in the peak months, but it risks looking half empty in the others and soon as word gets round that nights aren't busy that bad press can stick.
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