Ibiza '08 - highs/lows

Some interesting posts here, and Olly is entitled to his opinion without people slagging him off.

He is not the only one who has had a lot of negative things to say about Ibiza this year especially, ive spoken to people who have worked over there this summer (and other summers previously) and said compared to previous years it really has taken a turn for the worse,now there are many on here who are "massive Ibiza enthusiasts" as it were and will always defend Ibiza no matter what but the harsh facts are it appears that this year especially it has taken a turn for the worse (especially places like Bora Bora, Pacha and Space which are coming in for serious criticism)

I've still yet to go and will make the most of it, im only going for a few days, as long as i get some sun on my back and lots of alcohol,etc at least 1/2 nites out clubbing ill be happy enough, im looking at going to smaller underground clubs where it doesn't cost a fortune for entrance and drinks,the rampant commercialism seems to have had a detrimental effect on Ibiza along with the cops clamping down hard...anyway ill say so no more and will give my "report" upon my return.
 
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This will be the 9th year for me in Ibiza (since Summer 2000), and, during this decade, the island passed through a radical evolution.

By my point of view, all concerning with music is just a matter of taste and opinions are driven by personal preferences: so "what is commercial for me, shoouldn't be the same for you".

Focusing on the "party restrictions" I guess that these laws have been approved for the sake of the ibizan people. I mean that San An Council wanted to point out the necessity of a "party system" more respectful about locals' life.

For what concerning the "pricey ibizan life" I could reckon a dozen of holiday places in Italy more expensive than the island.
 
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espuma_party said:
This will be the 9th year for me in Ibiza (since Summer 2000), and, during this decade, the island passed through a radical evolution.

By my point of view, all concerning with music is just a matter of taste and opinions are driven by personal preferences: so "what is commercial for me, shoouldn't be the same for you".

Focusing on the "party restrictions" I guess that these laws have been approved for the sake of the ibizan people. I mean that San An Council wanted to point out the necessity of a "party system" more respectful about locals' life.

For what concerning the "pricey ibizan life" I could reckon a dozen of holiday places in Italy more expensive than the island.[/quote]

Exactly!
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jaycranney said:
Maybe its time for you to move my man, nothing personal, but your opinion doesn't help.

J
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I agree, I come on spotlight to hear all sorts of opinions about ibiza and I love to read both the highs and lows and what people would recommend/not recommend but if people are going to write off ibiza completely as a holiday/clubbing destination I'd rather they join another forum. Although it doesn't put me off going it dampens people's spirits IMO, I like to get excited about my experiences there and share stories with other fans of the island, not debate that it's come to the end of an era now, as others have said, people often find it difficult to cope with change but it is inevitable, some changes will have more of an impact than others (such as no daytime clubbing) but we all change as well and so do our tastes. Whilst I love ibiza I will continue to go, maybe I will grow out of it and find another place I love to holiday on a regular basis, maybe I won't but for now see you there in 2009!
 
Loved ibiza for years, still love it now after 6 weeks there (just come to an end very sadly!). Obviously, the island is a victim of its' success like so many places, but the initial things that drew me in many years ago are still there. Now I go with the family and enjoy it differently but the music, the smaller venues, the people, the place, remain special. Plus, if you pick your nights and afternoons, there is still some great clubbing out there.

As I am an aging clubber, I have plenty of memories from way back when and while it was fantastic to experience, for me it was quite fun to embrace the changes and enjoy the different moments ! As for the prices, it used to be that Switzerland where I live was more expensive than everywhere, now there are so many cities and resorts in Europe that are way, way more costly... Guess I have been lucky too and haven't had to pay the large club entrance fees for a while.

This thread is rather depressing. Each to their own opinions and I quite understand that people can be disappointed by the changes, the prices and the experience, especially when they are out for 4-5 days only. Let's be civilised...??!
 
this was my maiden post on this board and it the response been startling in various ways

what is striking is the sheer defensiveness of lot of people when you question the integrity of the ibiza cash cow - obviously, because I imagine a lot of jobs here are tied up with the industry, so I guess it's inevitable people will get touchy. ALSO striking - the moderators bringing moderation into disrepute - taking the moral high ground, sending unnecessary PMs, banning profanities - good grief, you would think the kind of people who go on clubbing holidays are innocent lambs who've never lived, the way this place is policed and dissenting voices silenced - one post in this thread was even removed! :eek: I suspect the moderators took their cue from the old authoritarian BBC board, which was widely reviled by internet geeks the world over, to the point where the worldwide forum actually set up a breakaway splinter messageboard - 1000s of posters migrating overnight in 2005... I digress though and maybe should add a 'wink' emoticon at this point before any more hate mail cascades into my inbox (not that any has but you never know - this is a nervous place!)... certain people here need to chill the F out and leisurely rant away on their terms instead of being so hypersensitive.

Now I've already said my bit - it was just a brief overview based on a long weeked - I missed a lot and I've acknowledged that X times - the bits NOBODY picked up were that I loved the zoo project, I loved the beach, I loved the melons, I loved the hierbas, I loved Formentera, it's a beautiful place and WILL return, hopefully soon, in spite of the ayuntamiento, the cops and the greedy capitalists' best efforts to ruin it. cheers/
 
Olly said:
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Now I've already said my bit - it was just a brief overview based on a long weeked - I missed a lot and I've acknowledged that X times - the bits NOBODY picked up were that I loved the zoo project, I loved the beach, I loved the melons, I loved the hierbas, I loved Formentera, it's a beautiful place and WILL return, hopefully soon, in spite of the ayuntamiento, the cops and the greedy capitalists' best efforts to ruin it. cheers/
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Another thing we agree on - I love Melons too!! ;):lol:
 
G.W. said:
Bloody Hell!
I think the Olly guy was only expressing his own feelings regarding his holiday and should be entitled to do so whether people agree or not.

I'm surprised by the reaction of some here, Grego mate no offence but you can also be quite opinionated at times so why shouldn't that apply to everyone else?
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none taken.

i've now problem with people being opinionated. i never once disuputed olly's right to have his say but if i think there is a flaw in the logic , then i'll counter it.

e.g. olly's argument about the fact he's lived in spain, etc, etc making a difference as to his opinion (authority to have an opinion) of ibiza.

anyway, olly seems like a big enough boy to know what he likes or not, and on that basis, my only other comment to him was that if he really doesn't like it, then don't come back. if he wants to give it a second chance, then i think he might be pleasantly surprised.
 
Olly said:
what is striking is the sheer defensiveness of lot of people when you question the integrity of the ibiza cash cow - obviously, because I imagine a lot of jobs here are tied up with the industry, so I guess it's inevitable people will get touchy.
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i think you've missed this one.

the majority of the people who earn a living over here, especially clubbing/tourist related livings, will freely admit that one of their main objectives during the summer is........to earn a living. naturally, the same way i did in england, i want to maximise that.

the point is that people are defending the fact that this type of cash cow attitude doesn't, by default, mean the "spirit of ibiza" or whatever has been destroyed/compromised. sure it's not all hippies and daisy chains and free love but there is still something different/unqiue about the island, which entices so many people (clubbers or not) to live, work and play.
 
One last thing.

Instead of going to an expensive pre club bar, get yourself a bottle of cheap vodka, get yourself the nearest beach, get the tunes on, and get sparkled before you go in.

Works for me hahaha :)
 
Good thread.

Whilst I dont agree with Olly he's obviously got the right to say what he thinks, even if it might dampen the mood for some people here.

However I do think he must've had a severe misconception of what it was like. It's not every day you find someone who has so many negatives after their first trip to Ibiza.
Seeing Olly is into Deep/Detroit house I'm not surprised he didnt enjoy some of his nights... same would be if I went to a Detroit house night in London.

In a way I'm pleased it wasn't to Olly's taste.. id be worried he liked deep house and came from Space saying it was the best night of his life!
 
Ferd said:
Good thread.

Whilst I dont agree with Olly he's obviously got the right to say what he thinks, even if it might dampen the mood for some people here.

However I do think he must've had a severe misconception of what it was like. It's not every day you find someone who has so many negatives after their first trip to Ibiza.
Seeing Olly is into Deep/Detroit house I'm not surprised he didnt enjoy some of his nights... same would be if I went to a Detroit house night in London.

In a way I'm pleased it wasn't to Olly's taste.. id be worried he liked deep house and came from Space saying it was the best night of his life!
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my main hatred of Space wasn't based on musical genres though. It was the venue itself and the retards in there. The one room I DID briefly like at Space "EL Salon" wasn't playing detroit OR deep house, it was actually more balearic/disco for the 30mins of the night I did enjoy - but the sound police had determined that the sound would be set so low as to be meaningless - and the poor DJ on after Alfredo just shrugged sympathetically when we asked him to turn it up. Probably fearful he would carted off to the local guardia civil detention centre otherwise..

but the guy after HIM, Novy? decided it would be a really good idea to play a load of euro kak, and so we were subjected to seminal moments like snap - rhythm is a dancer, which a hen party from West London (one of whom knew someone from my a-level days at the same college :eek: ) decided to sing along to IN ITS ENTIRETY in their most raucous voices. The best bit was when one of the girls said to me "this is my favourite room - it's all happy house here, tunes you can sing along to, yer know", and with that, my brief fondness for El Salon died...
 
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