Ikoda
Well-Known Member
accept the deal or walk away
Option three: Remain in the EU. It's still an option.
accept the deal or walk away
Too late, no?Option three: Remain in the EU. It's still an option.
The deal is the only one on the table, the EU won’t give us anything else. It’s time remain MPs stopped hurtling us towards a no deal Brexit by voting against anything put in front of them to try and engineer a “people’s” vote.
I'm all game for a peoples vote, and a potential extension to Article 50 as a result.
I remember I think it might have been you Mashed who posted a pretty convincing argument a couple of years back saying that everything would be fine because 'they' needed 'us' more and Audis/Prosecco had to be exported etc and I considered at the time that you might be right cos money talks right?
Wasn’t the vote in June 2016 a people’s vote?I'm all game for a peoples vote, and a potential extension to Article 50 as a result.
The deal is the only one on the table, the EU won’t give us anything else.
Wasn’t the vote in June 2016 a people’s vote?
I guess it all comes down to whether you think democracy is that important right now. Personally I couldn't give a shit how people voted in 2016. Am not especially arsed about another referendum either. If a country faces a national emergency, then I would personally have the experts in charge. You want leaders and confidence. And right now all the experts, all the specialists are all saying the same thing, industry, farming, car exporters, the hospitals, travel industry, supply chains, police databases, food standards are all about to get f-cked on a horrific scale unless somebody comes up with an urgent plan to avoid that.
My issue is that 99% of people who voted hadn't a clue really what they were actually voting on or the implications of it.A question for all those who voted remain. Please answer honestly.
If remain had won by the same margin in June 2016, but the majority of MP’s in Westminster were leavers. Would you think it would be acceptable for us to leave the customs union ignoring the result of the referendum?
You’d make a cracking politician in the Workers Party of KoreaI guess it all comes down to whether you think democracy is that important right now. Personally I couldn't give a shit how people voted in 2016. Am not especially arsed about another referendum either. If a country faces a national emergency, then I would personally have the experts in charge. You want leaders and confidence. And right now all the experts, all the specialists are all saying the same thing, industry, farming, car exporters, the hospitals, travel industry, supply chains, police databases, food standards are all about to get f-cked on a horrific scale unless somebody comes up with an urgent plan to avoid that.
Its not rocket science though is it? Leave or Remain? That simple. Leaving meaning leave customs union, etc etc etc remain meaning etc etcMy issue is that 99% of people who voted hadn't a clue really what they were actually voting on or the implications of it.
I consider myself to be of ok intelligence and I still barely understand it lol.
Knowing what we do now and how difficult it is I'd say a lot of leave voters would change their vote if they could.
You’re equating this with Britain being in a state of total war against one of the worst totalitarian states in the history of the world??I just take the view that in emergency situations, democracy is not the priority.
ok, an extreme analogy but elections were suspended during WW2 but I doubt too many regret Churchill taking over the government
similarly it may be illegal to break/enter but you don't exactly hang about on the street if you see a family trapped in a burning house - you don't conduct a referendum first to find out if they authorise you to enter!