matter
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Fun fact. His Dad relegated Dagenham & Redbridge from the conferenceAlan Carr also videoed dancing at Hi, its a fine selection of UK names out there
#Brexit
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mr_why
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EES pushed back again:
www.bbc.com
European Union delays introduction of new border check system - BBC News
The EU pushes back introducing new biometric border checks that were due on 10 November.
www.bbc.com
Buckley
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"The idea is to make a digital record linking passports to biometric data. Passengers will be given hand held devices, so they can register their details in their cars."EES pushed back again:
European Union delays introduction of new border check system - BBC News
The EU pushes back introducing new biometric border checks that were due on 10 November.
So, the plan is to have hundreds of thousands of inexperienced tourists doing on-the spot data entry?
Digital2013
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Bonkers isn't it, customers can barely download or print their boarding cards never mind anything complex
claretclubber
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Entering your own 4 digit card pin can be challenging at times 
mr_why
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Bloody ridiculous to subject people from nice countries to that. And no doubt there will be similar measures against us in retaliation. No one wins here
Nope, the U.K. will remain just a scan your passport at the gate if EU, US, Canada, Australia Etc. No human interaction.
tclubber
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Plus a requirement to get an (electronic) visa in advance (although this shit is coming to the EU too). Though I will admit the UK is treating travelers from the EU better than the EU is treating travelers from the UK post Brexit.
mr_why
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A bit like the US with the ESTA, I think creating an electric visa just makes some €€$$?
Digital2013
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While we are having a moan...the EU being strict with passports only being valid for 10 years from date of issue not expiry seems petty to me. These passports were issued in good faith by an at the time EU member state, and process changed to 10 years from date of issue a few years ago anyway so these passports will naturally phase themselves out.
So I fail to see the logic in wrecking someone's travel just because the UK added up to 11 months into a date. It's quite clear it's a valid passport and there's surely other more pressing matters with immigration into the EU.
So I fail to see the logic in wrecking someone's travel just because the UK added up to 11 months into a date. It's quite clear it's a valid passport and there's surely other more pressing matters with immigration into the EU.
Padster
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Like with most things concerning finance, trade and travel, the EU is only acting in reciprocation to the rules the UK has laid down- it's the same deal with the 90 day thing and the touring musicians issue- The EU traditionally offers full reciprocation in it's deals. If Boris and his merry band of neo-fascist turnips had bothered to negotiate a proper deal instead of prevaricating and waiting until the very last second before plunging us into a no-deal scenario because they had nothing to back it up simply because they had assumed the EU would blink first and offer us a much more favourable deal we wouldn't be having this discussion now.
The problems with the passports are on both sides, not because of the EU being spiteful, but because Boris' government set out their rules and the EU is simply reciprocating. Not that you'd find that in any of our newspapers.
With the touring bands thing, again it was Boris' government that set the 90 day limit for EU visitors to the UK and so, once again, the EU reciprocated. Apparently Starmer's government have sounded-out the EU with regards to re-negotiating this in order for touring bands and artists to be able to tour freely. However, the EU have dismissed this on several grounds: Firstly, if the artist or each member of the band/group are earning in excess of £35k p/a (another non-sensical rule created by Boris' government) then they can apply for a work visa like everyone else. Secondly, the EU have stated that they won't single out one special group for special treatment- if the rules are changed for artists/bands then they have to be changed for everyone. And once again, reciprocation seems to be a sticking point- it appears that Starmer's government wants to have it's cake and eat it.
The simple fact is that the EU is using the idiotic rules that Boris' government applied against the EU in it's fit of pique and xenophobia and applying them to the letter. If you want someone to blame for all the problems that Brexit has/is causing, don't point the finger at the EU, blame the bloated, mop-headed baboon that was in No. 10 at the time.