In what way is the EU undemocratic?There will be no Brexit negotiations, there can not be any with an undemocratic body like the EU.
No, we're deffo going and now that we have triggered article 50 we can't u-turn. It's either soft brexit (with a deal negotiated) or a hard brexit (with no deal).
In what way is the EU undemocratic?
Remind me who voted for Theresa May? That's not how parliamentary democracies work.Remind me when the vote for President was? I must have missed it.
Remind me who voted for Theresa May? That's not how parliamentary democracies work.
In the same way the president of the EU is elected by the European Parliament, which is a body of elected MEPs (you did vote in the Euro elections right?).We don't vote for leaders, we vote for MPs in parties, and the party with the largest number of MPs is asked to form a government. That party can change their leader every week if they so wish.
I have a lot of reservations about the EU but on the whole the UK was on to a good thing and now the young have been sold down the river by ageing nationalists.
everything will get more expensive, more insular, more narrow minded and poor regions more deprived but at least passports will be blue again, eh
In the same way the president of the EU is elected by the European Parliament, which is a body of elected MEPs (you did vote in the Euro elections right?).
You're either confusing the president and the presidency or deliberating changing the argument.If you have no issue with a country the size of Malta holding the presidency of the EU then that is fine. Malta has an economy of c.$9 Bn. The UK has an economy of $2.8 TRILLION. I mean this is like a small business owner in Cardiff having a say on a company the size of HSBC.
You're either confusing the president and the presidency or deliberating changing the argument.
Your original point about the EU being undemocratic is a wrong, but oft repeated mantra that anyone with Google could disprove in 5 minutes. Granted, it might not be perfect and it might feel undemocratic because we feel further removed from the seat of power and few people can be bothered to vote for their MEP or even take any interest in how the EU parliament works, but you can't blame the EU for people's failure to educate themselves.
Many of the people that claim the EU is undemocratic fail to even understand the way their own parliament works. Quite why a system that requires new law to be voted for by only one elected house, before having to be passed by a house of unelected hereditary peers and then eventually signed off by an unelected hereditary monarch is beyond me. This is certainly less democratic than the EU.
Laws can be proposed but they have to pass though two houses, one with representatives from the national governments, that we elected in our own national elections, the EU council and the EU Parliament that we elected via our MEPs (or didn't bother in most cases!). So it's still not true to say that some nobody from Malta can make a law....but an MEP in any country can still write and change laws in the European Parliament.
Me too, which kind of surprised me about your identity argument. I love living and working abroad, I've lived in Finland, Spain and now I live in Germany and have done for years, and although I'm British, I identify more as a European I think.You're talking to someone who spends more time out of the UK than in, so it is not an issue for me I live and work most places but the UK at the moment)
Me too, which kind of surprised me about your identity argument. I love living and working abroad, I've lived in Finland, Spain and now I live in Germany and have done for years, and although I'm British, I identify more as a European I think.
Voted no to Scottish independence previously but will sure as hell vote yes next time to get us back in the EU. You know that snooper's charter thing, where ISPs have to hold every e-mail/every site you've visited for a year (unless you're an MP, strangely enough)? That's illegal under EU law. Just one example of the EU having to save us from ourselves. Only now we're no longer in the EU and you can bet the Tories will push through more and more authoritarian policies.