what some of the locals think...

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get out of ibiza!
 
very nice work this. better if you do understand spanish or catalan, but even if not, the footage is fantastic.

in short, the girl makes a point about the island having the good and the bad and also shows footage of garbage etc, but just says that it's home to her and that we should all take care of the island. resonates very much with me.

 
that is a beautiful video. I felt a bit sad watching it tbh.

I feel pretty angry about the way Spain in general is heading right now (as anyone who follows me on Twitter will know)
 
Kim Wrong Un said:
true but for those of us living here it is a bit more immediate. Trump for instance is a certified c**t, everybody knows that, but it is a slightly more remote concern.
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Maybe. But there is still brexit - torys and right wing populism to deal with in the UK - US and Europe..
 
I don't discuss UK politics anymore. I'm actively disengaged. I've left it all behind although I still pay UK tax. Though in moving to Spain I think it is fair to say I traded one series of headaches for another..!

Big money is the new colonialism. I think Ibiza is particularly vulnerable because it is so dependent on a very specific industry. Fundamentally, people like the woman in that video just want to be left alone to live normal lives but also need an income to live on. The challenge is sustaining a manageable tourism industry that doesn't smash up the environment, drive people from their homes or ruin the island's character. Unfortunately I think greed is winning
 
Greed is definitely winning .

The problem we have is that too many people at the bottom,ie.the working classes think they have a stake in it. By supporting trump the Torys and the right wing populists who are backed by the big money . Any way I don't want to derail the thread anymore..
 
balearic joe said:
The problem we have is that too many people at the bottom,ie.the working classes think they have a stake in it.
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bang on. and I think it's relevant to tourism too, on Ibiza and beyond. people have been conned into thinking that what's good for the super rich is good for them. the desire to be upwardly mobile is king, and the last thing the (real or imagined) vip wants to do is worry about the damage they're doing as a consequence of doing the things they've paid so much money to do.
 
stivi said:
very nice work this. better if you do understand spanish or catalan, but even if not, the footage is fantastic.

in short, the girl makes a point about the island having the good and the bad and also shows footage of garbage etc, but just says that it's home to her and that we should all take care of the island. resonates very much with me.
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so good!
 
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