Just to adding my 2 cents on the whole overall topic... I'm not one for finger pointing, name calling, or comparing old school versus new or even newish because i just dont really care enough and i dont think the real problem is with what Ushuaia and Hi are doing musically or anything like that. I think the problem is as i alluded to in another thread, is they are trying to make Ibiza about glitz and glam or "Vegasify" when i think most people not all do not prefer it this way. Obviously times change and tastes change and so on, but targeting a VIP or yachting audience or whatever you want to call it is just not ideal for most (especially those on this thread). From my own personal experience, i would never go to Ushuaia really for the simple reason that to me, it is a poor man's Encore Beach and you cant even go in the pool, its just not the experience I want from Ibiza. I'd probably give Hi a try if there were something musically worth while, but i still dont love what they do overall as a brand, doesnt mean others wont love it. I think the hardest pill to swallow is that great places like Beachhouse couldn't survive due to rules/regulations or whatever the politics of it where Ushuaia for daylife will thrive and continue on their success with another club because when i think of the vibes at Beachhouse the first year it had Rumors and Diynamic, that is what i really think of when i think Ibiza, not the antics and "show" that is Ushuaia.