Teachers

I agree with you about teachers, but I sit on the greasy leather chair and order others about. I don't feel bad about it at all. I don't have people do anything that I have not already done.

You've never struck me as a Skinny Chai Latte sort of fella, more a coffee Frappuchino bloke, non? :lol:
 
Absolute crap!

I teach and have down teaching in the past, have done other jobs, and have now gone back to teaching and no job even comes close to the amount of unpaid hours I had to do as a teacher.

I don't think there was one weekend where I didn't go in and put in a full day's work in addition to getting up early and staying late every day.

I have put in way more hours as a teacher than any other job.

I'm in my mid thirties and have had other professional jobs and nothing comes even close to the amount of hours I've put in as a teacher!

When people talk about "summers off" most teachers I know go in up to a month ahead of time to get prepared for September. Most teachers I know now who are working in September have already been asked for their long term plans to be submitted to their principal/ headmaster.

In other jobs I had luxuries like going to the toilet when I needed to or taking a tea or coffee break when I wanted to. Not so in teaching!

Whereabouts?

Maybe it's different in other countries, maybe it's different in other parts of the country, but my experience of lots and lots of teachers in North London, is that they have it much easier than most other professionals in the area.
 
Because you equate criticism of your mum's profession as a whole, as criticism of your mum. Your mum isn't all teachers and her admirable industry isn't typical of her profession as a whole.

I certainly don't work in the manner I've quoted you describing. I work very, very hard, like your mum, but I get the ache at 'professionals' largely underworked, claiming otherwise.


Not THAT hard... you spend all day on here :p
 
Very true! I saw one last week which was pretty much "stuck in lessons, hungover, so guess i'll be teaching by textbook today" :eek:

Utaguara, I hope whoever ends up teaching my kids is as passionate about their profession as you are!8)

Ive seen quite a few of these too :oops:
 
Very true! I saw one last week which was pretty much "stuck in lessons, hungover, so guess i'll be teaching by textbook today" :eek:

Utaguara, I hope whoever ends up teaching my kids is as passionate about their profession as you are!8)

I really can't believe that re: the facebook comment! :eek:

Makes me sad actually!:cry:

It's been drummed in by school boards about posting anything to do with your school on facebook. I even think you have to be aware of who you might me when you go out at night.

A friend of mine realised this when he was out on a Saturday night, quite messy at 4 am and saw some of his students! (they were maybe 17?)

Luckily here, I have taught 14 and under, so don't see any students if I go out, but nowadays I like to keep that sort of thing to holidays far away where no one will see me! :lol:

Teaching is the most challenging job I have ever done, but I love working with kids; every day and every student is different.

Unfortunately, it always seems like that Alberta (where I live) the government likes to have huge cutbacks every few years where they decide teachers (and nurses) are not important. They lay off 1000 teachers or don't hire any for September. Then in a few months they realise they don't have enough teachers and and have to hire a lot.

That's what happened this year, so I have decided to go on a holiday. They say things in October should "pick up again". I certainly hope so!!

I love kids and hope I will always get to work with them!
 
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Whereabouts?

Maybe it's different in other countries, maybe it's different in other parts of the country, but my experience of lots and lots of teachers in North London, is that they have it much easier than most other professionals in the area.

I'm speaking from Canadian experience.

I also taught in a regular primary school in Japan for 3 years.

I taught in Madagascar (but that wasn't paid) but I still spend more time planning for the lessons than I did teaching them... especially there because I was only there for a few months and wanted to make the lessons interesting and engaging (normal lessons there were mainly copying off a chalkboard)

But, my most recent experience is in Canada.

How do they have it easier? just curious....
 
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But was that everyday or just the exceptions you remembered?

I don't think it's likely that he would be doing so much marking on a continual basis. 6 hours a day? plus a full day of continual lecturing?

Unfortunately thats the way I remember it most of the time. I couldnt believe it myself and used to take the p1ss out of him saying he must be reeeeaaaaally slow at reading / writing :spank:
 
Unfortunately thats the way I remember it most of the time. I couldnt believe it myself and used to take the p1ss out of him saying he must be reeeeaaaaally slow at reading / writing :spank:

My mum was a teacher too and there was ALWAYS marking on the table.

When she retired I remember thinking "So that's what the table looks like!" :lol:
 
I really can't believe we're having this discussion!

The teachers in North London must be crap (or the UK as a whole?! Except Bec's hometown :lol:)

But the teachers where I grew up in suburban USA deserve everyone's respect and admiration for the top notch work they do at the middling salary they get.

I wish I could go back and give a big hug to Mrs Lindstrom (6th year), Mr Cabiati (World Cultures), Mr Troya (Algebra... well, not him... he might take it the wrong way :lol:), my physics teacher, my 11th year history teacher or some of my other teachers because they helped shape the lives of, among others, an astronaut, an Olympian, a World Cup football player, a congressman... and a top notch PR guy based halfway across the world in Russia :lol:

But I'll admit I was lucky. My district growing up was among the top 10 or 20 of the 1000s of counties in the US when it came to public education. Given that, I'd give even more respect to the men and women who try to do what my teachers did in tougher inner city environments.

Again.. really can't believe we're having this discussion!
 
I really can't believe we're having this discussion!


But the teachers where I grew up in suburban USA deserve everyone's respect and admiration for the top notch work they do at the middling salary they get.

my physics teacher, my 11th year history teacher or some of my other teachers because they helped shape the lives of, among others, an astronaut, an Olympian, a World Cup football player, a congressman... and a top notch PR guy based halfway across the world in Russia :lol:

But I'll admit I was lucky. My district growing up was among the top 10 or 20 of the 1000s of counties in the US when it came to public education. Given that, I'd give even more respect to the men and women who try to do what my teachers did in tougher inner city environments.

Again.. really can't believe we're having this discussion!

I second that John teachers have as much effect on children as parents and maybe more. Wow you put in alot of work.
 
I have had "this discussion" hundreds of times,it's always the same.
You can never change someones mind if they have the (misguided) opinion that teachers are part timers.
Buckley,you talk about some of your workers,the way they behave etc,at least you don't have to meet their parents and deal with them. What you say about the teachers you know in London makes me wonder if they are doing the job properly...
 
I enjoy a cuppa tea green or earl grey, I stay away from the frappa crappa stuff

I also love a good cup of Earl Grey.

I hope this revelation goes some way in challenging the terrible stereotypying I have seen in this thread regarding the beverage choice of greasy leather chair jockeys.
 
Gotta say it's disappointing to read that folk really think teachers have got it easy! And if they have got it easy & are busy with facebook status's hangovers etc then personally I think they are in the wong job.

I've worked in plenty of schools & pupil referral units and it's apparent that some teachers are in the wrong job but the majority work damn hard, grafting, dedicated, committed and congruent.

apart from all the hours, time, effort, planning & marking - let's remember that they are emotionally supporting students thru thier growing years of becoming who they are in the big wide world when they leave school. They provide the bench for self worth, self belief, aspiration, ambition, inspiration, knowlege, and a thirst to experience life in all its colours and glories. Teachers shape the future of the world we live in coz kids are the future. They also for alot of kids are the saviour from thier home life situations.

Kids spend 6 or 7 hours at school every day from 4-16yrs, now That is alot of influence that teachers have upon a students life.
So yeah I think teachers deserve respect, honour and deep gratitude.
They are doing a job that most parents are not equipped for - and deserve to be paid well.

Are all those who think teachers are lazy part-timers going to home schooling thier kids so they get a 'decent education' ???!!
 
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