SAN ANTONlO REDlSCOVERED

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san antonio, 1974:

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from the ibiza sun:

Drinking Clampdown
The Town Hall of San Antonio announced plans on Thursday to crackdown on the drink problem within the town centre. Having forbidden the consumption of alcohol out of glasses on the streets, the Interior Councillor, Jose Ramon Serra, said that he had ordered police to clampdown on the sale of alcohol from supermarkets after midnight, which is, in theory, illegal. It is hoped that this will prevent the consumption of cheap drinks late at night, and mean that those who want to drink will do so in the relatively controlled atmosphere of a licensed bar. He also said that the police would be clamping down on the sale of specially reduced drinks and other offers that do not comply with authorised prices, and encourage the consumption of vast amounts of alcohol in a short space of time. Serra said that the measures were being to taken by the Town Hall to try and clean up the bad image that has been cultivated over the last few years.
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Law Agreement

Tough new laws, announced last week by the Town Hall of San Antonio,
have been well received by the many bar owners of the municipal.

The laws include a crackdown on the after-hour sale of alcohol by supermarkets,
the consumption of alcohol from glass bottles in the street,
and illegal parties organised in public places.

Most bar owners supported the moves, which it is hoped will clean up
the tarnished image of the town.
They claim that it is the responsibility of everyone, and that only together
will positive strides be made.
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(ibiza-sun)
 
I found the whole place very grubby, dirty and run down. (including the beach and promenade) The place was littered with dog crap, everywhere smelt like cats litter, loads of tramps/prostitutes etc. but apart from that it was great....not, the whole place just seems very run down. Plus side was that it was close to the town although the walk back late on a night was a bit daunting sometimes. Hotel Nautico Ebeso where i stayed wasnt too bad though.:)

I thought the same thing about Figueretas; we were having a leisurely walk after dinner one night, saw two prostitutes and headed back to Playa D'en Bossa quickly. There was a funfair there with a mechanical bull that I wanted to ride but never got the chance.
 
from the ibiza sun:

Profits Fall
Forty-two per cent of businesses surveyed in San Antonio have revealed that their turnover in July had fallen in comparison to last year. Of these businesses, the average decrease was 21 per cent. The results were described as alarming, as they continued to show that only 16 per cent of businesses reported a higher turnover than last year. The falls were blamed on the continuing arrival to the municipality of tourism only interested in night-time activities. Shopkeepers urged the Town Hall to try and improve this type of tourism, which was "killing" local businesses.

Noise Regulation
The Town Hall of San Antonio revealed that it would continue with its crackdown on noise levels in the city-centre, by introducing stricter laws. The administrations representative, Josep Ramon Serra Pilot, said that he hoped the new regulations would be in place by next year, and would put an end to the constant noise pollution that the centre of the town suffers every summer. He said that police had already been instructed to clampdown down on those breaking the existing laws, and so far four establishments had been closed down, although they have all now reopened their doors. He claimed that the new laws had the backing of the entire party and residents alike, and was part of the ongoing crackdown to try and control a situation which had "got out of hand" in recent years.
The crackdown continued over the weekend as local police fined six supermarkets for selling alcohol outside the permitted hours. Pilot said that over one hundred and forty leaflets had been distributed to warn shops about the clampdown in the law. He continued by saying that everyone had their licence and their specific opening hours, which had to be adhered to. The fines will vary from 1,500 to a maximum of 65,000 euros.

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a 22 year old british tourist, ex-combatant in afghanistan, was arrested last monday night after attacking 3 policemen. he was told by a policeman that drinking in the street and carrying a glass bottle in the hands was forbidden... fLlCk you he said and punched the policeman. according to him, various policemen attacked him but he didnt show any sign of violence to prove it while three policemen had injuries in the arms (!!).....

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..... a year and a half in prison plus a 900€ fine and more than 1.000€ for the affected policemen :!:

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dont go carrying bottles if you want to avoid problems.....
 
Wow - but to be frank this was probably a boozed up English thug. Whilst I have always found the police to be tough if anyone messes with them in Ibiza, they are generally fair. In fact, I have found them very helpful and courteous. If they choose to batton someone who is out of order, it may teach them a leason. Without not knowing the circumstances about this case, I suspect that this man was out of order, started arguing and got aggressive etc. the police gave him a beating (warrented) and that should be been the end of it (it usually is). I suspect (whilst intoxicated) he decided to make a formal complaint, hence his day in court and prison. Some people are stupid. Lets face it, the police have a difficult job in Ibiza but to suggest that they go out and randomly batton someone for a minor case is ludicrous. Discuss.:spank:
 
Not so much Wow, more of a HURRAH! from me.

It's this kind of loutish, thugish behaviour that gives Brits abroad a bad press. Worse even than that, it is destroying the fabric of our society at home. You only have to look at the news reports over the past week or so. Had this happened in the UK, the guy would have probably got off with a caution and received compensation for the damage the policemen's arms did to his knuckles.

Heavy penalties and authorities that aren't afraid to use them might actually reduce such incidents, although given the state of things in the UK now I can't see things getting much better for a generation at least.

Well, you did say discuss..... :evil:

Angry of Mayfair aka
 
well, i think that is correct. on this forum, it has been suggested that we all want people to come to this beautiful island however, as i see it, there is a small element that are undesirables. As i previously intimated, in my opinion, the police here have a difficult job which is nt easy when punters get out of control. we all like to have a good time but lets respect where you are and the people you are with.
 
Not so much Wow, more of a HURRAH! from me.

It's this kind of loutish, thugish behaviour that gives Brits abroad a bad press. Worse even than that, it is destroying the fabric of our society at home. You only have to look at the news reports over the past week or so. Had this happened in the UK, the guy would have probably got off with a caution and received compensation for the damage the policemen's arms did to his knuckles.

Heavy penalties and authorities that aren't afraid to use them might actually reduce such incidents, although given the state of things in the UK now I can't see things getting much better for a generation at least.

Well, you did say discuss..... :evil:

Angry of Mayfair aka

Thankfully the majority of people from the UK share this view. Sadly the government on the UK does not :( David Cameron's new initiative "Hug a Hoodie" ffs the UK really is going to rack & ruin.

Well done to the Spanish Police on this occasion, the guy should have his passport confiscated for five years in addition to the fines.
 
It's a disgrace the way some people carry on when they go abroad. the way I see it is that when you go on holiday abroad you're kind of a guest in that country so should behave like it. Respect the laws of the land, the difference in cultures and especially the locals.


What else can be done to control violent and loutish behaviour??

Not let people with a violent criminal record in to the country??
 
josep ramón serra a.ka. pilot a.ka. the-man-all-bar-owners-hate a.ka. the-man-who-dont-look-in-the-eyes a.ka. the-basura-man (as he used to be the boss of the binmen!!):

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DDI

remember when Robo started some years ago a thread called "San Antonio gets Tough"? well, that was NOTHING compared with what pilot plans to do ! !

at least the previous guy, pantaleoni, owns some bars so he was more flexible but this guy is too much.....
 
There really doesn't seem to be an end in sight at the moment, esp for San An. And they'll only realise it when it's too late.

It's not the end for Ibiza by a long way, but it's the first time I've thought (in 8 summers) that it's really changed, and there are things that can't be reversed happening now. Closing times for clubs, bars, closures, crackdowns. Yes, many people say this sort of thing "happens every year" but not with the frequency and severity.

If they really do want to change the very essence of what Ibiza's about then I doubt in years to come anyone will want to go for the same reasons that they have since 1987. But then the 'war' would have been won and all we'll be doing is looking back.

I'm sure the island won't give up the fight. It's a lot tougher than people think.
 
BTW, not sure if this was posted or not but the day i got to san an (august 5th) there was some guy dead on the beach and the cops left him there for about 6 hours or more, pretty weird
 
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