Overcrowding

[ric]

Trying my best not to start on Amnesia but that death trap of a corridor is an absolute disgrace!!!!!! One of these days there will be grim event there and the fact that year in, year out, the club (as well as other clubs) are completely rammed to shocking levels at some points just goes to show the complete contempt that these money-fuelled owners have for us.... The clearly couldn't care less if we lived or got crushed to death!!

FACT!

 

[Jack87]

DC10 on 27/09/12 was the most ridiculously oversold and overcrowded clubbing environment I've been in. Just not enjoyable for anyone there. Was so busy that at times you couldn't physically get inside, we spent most of the time between 2am and 4am stood outside waiting for it to die down, and even then you couldn't lift your arms.

 

[Neo95gt]

it will be noticeably quieter in june than in august and closing party period - you will love it (but still, closing party vibe can't be beaten).

The vibe at the closing party in 2011 was horrible. Just pushing and not having room to breath, ugh...

Is it still crowded enough in June where there is a decent vibe?

 

[icebaer69]

The Main room / terrace split at Amnesia trying to get in and out will be a killer one day.

... Amnesia ... I've never experienced over crowding like it.
We spent an hour getting from one side of the dance floor to the other
and then ended up spending 2 hours by the cloakroom waiting for it to quiet down a tiny bit
and then just gave up and went home.
I ... am used to being crushed a bit but nothing compared to Amnesia.

Went Cream Opening Party in 2009, horrible packed!
I needed some air/a break and saw all sorts on the way out -
people passed out etc, and not being able move at all.
Death trap that place is.

the worst i've experienced amnesia in terms of overcrowding
were cocoon from 2008-2010 in general and amnesia closing 2009-2011 ...

that said, also pacha gets ridiculously rammed ... dc10 ... space ... ushuaïa.
so stop moaning about amnesia, the vast majority of the clubs on the island get totally packed sometimes ,,.

c´mon - what has ush lost in this listing ?
and space ? never felt unsafe there.
pacha/dc10 might get annoying sometimes regarding overcrowding -
it´s not about "getting packed" -
but never ever (even @ guetta´s thursday) had such frightening experiences in other clubs
as in amnesia´s entrance/exit-bottleneck-deathtrap:
http://www.ibiza-spotlight.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74550&p=1415461&viewfull=1#post1415461
easily something could happen there like in january 2013 in brazil disco kiss in case of a panic ...

 

[stivi]

The vibe at the closing party in 2011 was horrible. Just pushing and not having room to breath, ugh...

Is it still crowded enough in June where there is a decent vibe?

which closing party are you talking about? generally the closing parties are packed yes, but i repeat, you get used to it (not saying it's the best thing though).

of course there's a decent vibe in june - it's ibiza after all!

right, i agree the bottleneck in amnesia (terrace/main room) is bad, but i stick to what i've said earlier, i've seen it just as packed in other clubs here. of course in ushuaïa it never feels that bad - because it's open air. but believe me, i still have experienced it packed. as i did in dc10 many times, space a few times (carl cox tuesdays plus space opening and closing parties when the car park closes), pacha many times, privilege on cream r1 party. all i'm saying is it's not just amnesia.

 

[MiniMarc]

Im not gona bother with circoloco this year tbh. it was so oversold last time we went it got annoying which is a shame for a party which i held in such high regard

 

[2Santos]

I appreciate what you are saying guys, and i agree with you to a certain degree, but i don't think anybody is moaning for the sake of moaning.
Everybody wants a club busy with a great atmosphere, just not dangerously over capacity.

You can't blame customers, regardless of whether they are in the know about the venue & where best to stand, or not. Im sorry, but you just can't. The venues (and indeed the authorities) need to take the responsibility. This is a serious issue.

IF (and i hope this never happens), but if there were to be an incident a la Love Parade 2010 or Big Beach Bootique 2002 or even something as isolated as this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/oct/19/nightclub-suspected-crush-death-northampton

then you can bet your bottom dollar that as visitors to the island who go for the clubs we will all be affected, even if not directly, by the fallout.
Of course these incidents can occur anywhere, and I'm certainly not singling out any club in particular, or even limiting this to just Ibiza. But some of the scenes i have personally witnessed in Ibiza Re: crowding have been unacceptable. You can't take a gamble with people's lives.

I'd be gutted as the next man to get turned away from a club for arriving too late as it's already filled-up. And if i was the club manager/promoter looking out at a queue of people who i physically cannot fit into my club i would also feel gutted. But seriously, it's the lesser of 2 evils.

Agreed, couldn't have said it better myself! I mean I could have, if I spoke better english. Meanwhile im simply going to agree

 

[2Santos]

that said, also pacha gets ridiculously rammed at times. as does dc10. as does space main room sometimes (coxy mainly). as does ushuaïa. so stop moaning about amnesia, the vast majority of the clubs on the island get totally packed sometimes and the more you experience it, the less it bothers you (in my case at least).

Nothing to do with amnesia, like you said, it happens everywhere, and its not about extra space to feel comfortable or "throw shapes" i expect most of these clubs to be packed and perfectly fine with that, I guess what i was saying is whether the clubs are ready for "What If" situations

 

[Neo95gt]

which closing party are you talking about? generally the closing parties are packed yes, but i repeat, you get used to it (not saying it's the best thing though).

of course there's a decent vibe in june - it's ibiza after all!

right, i agree the bottleneck in amnesia (terrace/main room) is bad, but i stick to what i've said earlier, i've seen it just as packed in other clubs here. of course in ushuaïa it never feels that bad - because it's open air. but believe me, i still have experienced it packed. as i did in dc10 many times, space a few times (carl cox tuesdays plus space opening and closing parties when the car park closes), pacha many times, privilege on cream r1 party. all i'm saying is it's not just amnesia.

Circoloco closing party I think. I'm no stranger to packed clubs but that was ridiculous.

 

[icebaer69]

... Cream ... Calvin Harris ... did have the terrace absolutely jumping... too jumping in fact.
The stage end is an accident waiting to happen and it would be disgusting if it took someone being seriously hurt or worse for them to do something about overcrowding. You have the stage, main room/terrace entrance, a bar, toilets and the main entrance/exit crammed into a 4 square metre area. It's absolutely obscene.
Another thing would be for them to make the VIP area accessable from the main room to get rid of the terrace/main room bottleneck? That's probably too simple though ...

 

[DelMarSunset]

It was dangerous, pure and simple. Creams official twitter feed was showing pictures of them putting up the sold out sign when i looked the next day and i would say the majority of people were in the terrace for Calvin on that particular night as the main room wasn't silly rammed. There is absolutely no point in boasting that you have "sold out" an event while making it dangerous for people who have parted with the best part of fifty quid to be there. Oh and turn the air conditioning up (you earn hundreds of thousands of pounds from the night) there were people fainting due to the heat and overcrowding.

 

[marley]

I remember being at Manumission back in the late 90s when Privilege caught fire. I was dancing with some mates near the huge back stage with the fans , when one of the banners hanging from the roof caught fire. From what I remember they had trapeze artists who were juggling batons which were on fire and one of them caught the banner. It went up in flames and after a minute or two fell down onto the dancefloor where minutes earlier people had been dancing. I recall watching it happen with my mate who was taking photos of the scene unfolding. I wasnt to worried until I noticed the bar staff and DJs aborting ship and hot footing it out. We bolted too at that point.

Im pretty sure we headed home after that, and I don't think the night carried on. I think the only reason a disaster was averted was because it was pretty late into the night (I think the sun was making an appearance) so it wasn't as packed as it could have been, and some of the falling debris ended up in the pool.

One of my mates was so spooked by it he didn't go out clubbing again that holiday and went off clubbing altogether soon after.

I don't recall any body coordinating the evacuation of the club. The scary thing is if a similar thing happened now, I wonder if anything would have changed. If that would have been in any of the big clubs at peak time, the mind boggles at what might have happened.

 

[Springal]

That stage in Amnesia is dangerous. Together opening was madness. The whole layout of the club is pretty poor anyway, but when you cannot move in either room, and cannot get to the toilet, and then have idiot doorman putting their legs cross narrow pathways to stop people getting by for a bit, and then getting pushed behind it is stupid. Shame as it is a top club, but they either need to get real, or play around with the layout.

 

[Tommo1888]

cream at amnesia last week was ridiculous, never experienced anything like it, place was way over capacity, would of been a good night otherwise, just money grabbing from the club, it will take a death or something to rectify the situation. People that went on the tuesday were punting tickets for thursday because they refused to go back it was so packed out. I thought they were just being soft, I was wrong.

 

[RichieAllan]

As much as it would take something away from the experience...there needs to be a capacity put on these clubs and one place to get tickets...no generic street/bar sales.

What will come with this, unfortunately, is touting, increases is ticket prices and worst of all; queues!

But it will, at least, be a bit safer inside.

 

[Evolution]

If Together and Cream just use the regular DJ booth at the far end of the Terrace 99% of the issues would disappear.

 

[neilly303]

If Together and Cream just use the regular DJ booth at the far end of the Terrace 99% of the issues would disappear.

Exactly, the best thing to do when it's like this is avoid the area near the entrance between 1 - 4, just stay in the main room or at the other side of the terrace (if you can get through the crowd)

 

[Ikoda]

If Together and Cream just use the regular DJ booth at the far end of the Terrace 99% of the issues would disappear.

Or replace the DJ both at the far end with the stage, and extend the VIP booth on the entrance to the terrace so Amnesia doesn't loose any VIP space (Which is part of the reason the stage is put that end, right?)

 

[icebaer69]

there was something in ddi (or was it in uh ?) some days ago about overcrowding/more capacity control in 2014 etc. with a pic of amnesia !

 

[craig72]

Dixon played in our little club 2 months ago.It was rammed and jaws swinging every direction..