im gonna vote for...........

[MARKB]

I don't mind paying extra tax and NI if the public services improve.


Through the PFI scheme (which the tories opposed ) there are hundreds of new schools, , hospitals not to mention fire stations and sure start centres etc.

Labour's New Deal makes a hell of a difference to job seekers.

I pay more tax now and the labour government supports a european directive which will cause my business lots of problems, but the country as a whole, I believe, will be a better place because of Labour.

On the otherside I hope the margin they win by (assuming they win) will be hugely reduced as Labour do not have a decent opposition and that is not a healthy situation for a democracy to be in.

55% OF ELIGIBLE VOTERS IN MY AREA VOTE - 45% DO NOT! That's the scariest thing.

I don't agree with Chewie, but I respect his opinions and his passion about politics.

Whoever you vote for, at least vote.

MarkB (Labour candidate for Wibble)

 

[stuie]

I must say I'm finding it bizarre!!!

The board seems to have more Tory supporters than Labour supporters, but all the polls show a different story!

Could it be that the Labour supporters (the majority) are ashamed to show what they think in public because of the Iraq war?

 

[kes]

yes i know all that stuie. but i want to know what theyre gonna do for the next 5 years? and how? and how theyre gonna pay for it.

Tax those that can afford to help the less fortunate... it's not rocket sceince really it isn't

 

[NITEFLY]

im voting for the monster raving party,if they get in there introducing a 99p coin

 

[MARKB]

I must say I'm finding it bizarre!!!

The board seems to have more Tory supporters than Labour supporters, but all the polls show a different story!

Could it be that the Labour supporters (the majority) are ashamed to show what they think in public because of the Iraq war?

I'm red through and through!

 

[kes]

I must say I'm finding it bizarre!!!

The board seems to have more Tory supporters than Labour supporters, but all the polls show a different story!

Could it be that the Labour supporters (the majority) are ashamed to show what they think in public because of the Iraq war?

Does anyone here think that any other leader/party would have acted differently on the information given to them?

I cannot begin to imagine the torment of the familys who lost their children to this war knowing that it shouldn't have happened but is that really Tonys/labours fault?

 

[Drew]

yes i know all that stuie. but i want to know what theyre gonna do for the next 5 years? and how? and how theyre gonna pay for it.

Tax those that can afford to help the less fortunate... it's not rocket sceince really it isn't

OK, what happens when those that can afford it are taxed so much they think "funk it, what's the point!!"

Who'll be left to pay high taxes then, the Monarchy?

Socialism doesn't work and never will.

 

[sexki11en]

Does anyone here think that any other leader/party would have acted differently on the information given to them?

I cannot begin to imagine the torment of the familys who lost their children to this war knowing that it shouldn't have happened but is that really Tonys/labours fault?

Unless someone else had their head so far up Bush's ass that they couldnt see truth for lies, and sent those poor lads to fight a war that was nothing to do with us - then YES - it is Tony/Labours fault

 

[MARKB]

I must say I'm finding it bizarre!!!

The board seems to have more Tory supporters than Labour supporters, but all the polls show a different story!

Could it be that the Labour supporters (the majority) are ashamed to show what they think in public because of the Iraq war?

Does anyone here think that any other leader/party would have acted differently on the information given to them?

I cannot begin to imagine the torment of the familys who lost their children to this war knowing that it shouldn't have happened but is that really Tonys/labours fault?

Agreed. (end of my contribution to this thread or i'll be here all day) - unless someone insults me in my absence

 

[djchewie]

Are you trying to say that all those poor people never tried in life??? That they don't work hard or are lazy?

That someone couldn't afford to go to bupa because they "didn't put enough into life"

They've got you hook line and sinker buddy...

I've got what i've got not because i had a good footing but because i was fortunate enough to have an intelligent family who showed me what life has to offer and how to get it. If i hadn't had that then, growing up where i did, i'd either be in nick or in smack rehab by now.

i cant afford to goto bupa. if i could afford to i would. at least i wont be treated with distain to meet certain "targets" imposed by someone sitting behind a desk, who doesnt know his arse from his elbow.

at least at bupa they'll probably poke and prod me and find something wrong with me no matter how small, and be able to prevent anything major developing.

glad to hear you have a good footing in life, with an intelligent family, who has shown you right from wrong.

but some people use that as an excuse for not trying.

ive spoken to people who i went to school with. "you went to uni didnt you, i wish i paid more attention in class now", is what one guy who used to funk about said.

he didnt put the effort in then, and didnt realise his potential. so who's to blame? Thatcher?

 

[stuie]

Unless someone else had their head so far up Bush's ass that they couldnt see truth for lies, and sent those poor lads to fight a war that was nothing to do with us - then YES - it is Tony/Labours fault

Do you not remember there being a Labour backlash on the eve of war? And the vote for military action was swung in favour by Tory and Lib Dem seats?

 

[djchewie]

Tax those that can afford to help the less fortunate... it's not rocket sceince really it isn't

why should i pay more tax to pay help the less fortunate.

if i want to donate to charity i will.

tell you what, you win the lottery and share the winnings with everyone who is unemployed in the whole of the country.


didnt think u would.

 

[sexki11en]

Tony Blair stood firm on his decision all the way through - and still does. He makes no apologies for the lads still (needlesly) being out there and he never will. Maybe if one of his own family was fighting this so called war he wouldnt have been so quick to send them out there and keep them out there.

 

[Scoobie]

Tony Blair stood firm on his decision all the way through - and still does. He makes no apologies for the lads still (needlesly) being out there and he never will. Maybe if one of his own family was fighting this so called war he wouldnt have been so quick to send them out there and keep them out there.

Whilst I agree with everything you've said there, the Conservatives would not have done one single thing differently. They supported the war all the way through and continue to support our troops being there, so as an election issue its completely irrelvant.

 

[stuie]

Tony Blair stood firm on his decision all the way through - and still does. He makes no apologies for the lads still (needlesly) being out there and he never will. Maybe if one of his own family was fighting this so called war he wouldnt have been so quick to send them out there and keep them out there.

If thats what you think and thats the issue you want to use to decide where you put your vote, then you are free to do so.

And BTW, so are the people of Iraq these days

But really... Election is about what happens in the future

Tories = Bad for the future

 

[djchewie]

Do you not remember there being a Labour backlash on the eve of war? And the vote for military action was swung in favour by Tory and Lib Dem seats?

on info which only the PM and his cabinet had access to.

any Tory/Lib Dem votes for war were done in good faith on the facts that were presented in the Case for War. (big chunk of which was the WMD and the 40min Threat if i remember rightly).

if he wanted rid of Saddam, he shoulda said.

at least be a Man and say youve funked up and will step down. but no, Teflon Tony wants this place in History doenst he.

 

[stuie]

on info which only the PM and his cabinet had access to.

any Tory/Lib Dem votes for war were done in good faith on the facts that were presented in the Case for War. (big chunk of which was the WMD and the 40min Threat if i remember rightly)

And your Mr. Howard said the other day that even with ALL the information that he has NOW he still would support military action in Iraq.

 

[NITEFLY]

Monster Raving Loony Party, Overview of Policies, 2005

Our team of experts has decided that Income Tax has not proved popular with the public and will therefore be abolished. It was started in order to finance the Napoleonic war in 1799 and we now believe that the time is right to announce the cessation of hostilities with Napoleon. Some of the money left in the coffers will be used to fill in our part of the Channel Tunnel in case no one has mentioned it to the French. Any remaining money will be strategically placed on a horse at the 3-30 at Haydock Park at odds of at least 12/1 in order to see us through until the next election. Income Tax will be officially replaced by people lending the government a bob or two at the end of the week when we're a bit skint.

Other policies:

We will issue a 99p coin to save on change.

The Official Monster Raving Loony Party will not join the single European currency. Instead, we will invite all Europeans countries to JOIN THE POUND.

Rich people should be taxed to pay for the printing of money, as they use most of it.

Tax credits will be paid to nice people. There will be a "total *******" tax for everyone else.

We pledge to reduce class sizes by making the pupils sit closer to one another and issuing them with smaller desks.

Bright pupils will be provided with dimmer switches to prevent them distracting the rest of the class.

The number 13 will be abolished due to its longstanding unpopularity. The bus to Acton North will now not have a number on it but not much else will be affected. Therefore if you see a bus with no number on it, it will be going to Acton North. Please remember this for future reference

We will replace the House of Lords with the House of Cards, to make it easier for the Government to deal with.

All cars will be converted to run on Veno's to help stop congestion.

We fully back the government's policy of discouraging binge drinking by opening pubs for 24 hours. We believe that 24 hours is not quite long enough and propose to make the length of a day 32 hours long so that the pubs can be open for even longer. We also rather like the government idea of coming down hard on drugs by legalising them. Regarding tobacco it will now only be legal to smoke it with cannabis. Anyone found to have a ciggy not containing any cannabis will be made to walk to Coventry with a stone in their shoe, unless they come from Coventry in which case an alternative major city will be substituted on the advice of a committee who will meet far too often and eat dope cakes.

We will set up an enquiry to find out why there's a Polar bear on Fox's Glacier mints.

All fast food will be clearly labelled "May contain traces of real food".

All foreign G.Ps in England and Wales will be taught the local dialect so they know when their patients feel Jiggered (Tired), Manky (Rough), Gipping (Vomiting) or have got somit rang with their Fizog (Face).

To prevent congestion on hospital wards, all hospital visits will be cut to 30 minutes a day, with the exception of Coco the clown to entertain the nurses.

Any politician wanting to start a war will be shipped off to the country in question with a bag of conkers. They can then conker the country themselves.

Anyone criticising defence will be made to mend it with de hammer and de nails.

Anyone believing that their pet understands every word that they say to them will be asked to make the pet write a thesis to prove it.

OAP Meals will be served on plates not on wheels.

The Olympic Games will only allow British sports people to take part in order to help our gold medal chances.

 

[djchewie]

And BTW, so are the people of Iraq these days

at what cost?

nearly 100 UK Troops DEAD.
lord knows how many Iraqis.

Margarat Hassan, Ken Bigley... need i go on?

£6 Billion and counting. (suppose whe can recoup some of this with the slice of the black liquid milkshake on offer).

 

[gfunk]

I cannot begin to imagine the torment of the familys who lost their children to this war knowing that it shouldn't have happened but is that really Tonys/labours fault?

Whose fault is it if not Tony's , I see the role of prime minister as the person with whom the buck stops, he is the highest political figure in the country, it is up to him to look at the evidence presented to him and make an honest decision based on what is right or wrong not what he wants to do. He can not blame anyone else

I think the tories would have gone to war, but wouldnt have used the now crap WMD excuse