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Now we know they glory days of trance are long gone and Cream is not as big as it once was but I have enjoyed every single party there.

I am pretty gutted to be honest and for me this is as big as Space closing.

Surely this will open up a weekly smaller trance party somewhere else..
Cream is my favourite night and amnesia favourite club. Havent been from 2015 but everytime been its been packed.....ive always spent most time in the main room tho
 
Magit Cacoon confirmed for a TBA Friday at DC-10 on Sept 14th. She's part of the Crosstown/Rebellion posse. Could this be Damian Lazarus' Storyteller party?
 
As a techno/trance fan I am gutted to see the back of Cream ... Seeing PVD & Aly&Fila on the terrace at Cream last year was incredible and I even enjoyed as much as some of the Tech nights...

Armin Van Buuren is a legend within trance and still manages to pull over 40,000 to his ASOT festival - however I normally find 50% of his Ibiza sets are Trouse...

I'm guessing PVD would be too large a name to work under Armin at Hi - This could signal the end of his 20 year career on the island....

This also signals the death of Trance on the island in major clubs to tech-house (a genre I find boring) & this does put me off visiting hugely...... Tomorrowland will cater just as much in the techno/trance area for myself and not full of the Towie crew nights like Abode will inevitably attract.....
 
As a techno/trance fan I am gutted to see the back of Cream ... Seeing PVD & Aly&Fila on the terrace at Cream last year was incredible and I even enjoyed as much as some of the Tech nights...

Armin Van Buuren is a legend within trance and still manages to pull over 40,000 to his ASOT festival - however I normally find 50% of his Ibiza sets are Trouse...

I'm guessing PVD would be too large a name to work under Armin at Hi - This could signal the end of his 20 year career on the island....

This also signals the death of Trance on the island in major clubs to tech-house (a genre I find boring) & this does put me off visiting hugely...... Tomorrowland will cater just as much in the techno/trance area for myself and not full of the Towie crew nights like Abode will inevitably attract.....

I think they played the main room? or was there a one-off where they got to play the terrace and I just missed it?

it's probably another one of those changes that was a long way coming. I still think there is some room for trance on the island so let's see what happens.
 
Now we know they glory days of trance are long gone and Cream is not as big as it once was but I have enjoyed every single party there.

I am pretty gutted to be honest and for me this is as big as Space closing.

Surely this will open up a weekly smaller trance party somewhere else..
Es vedra or espalmador?
 
although I could never listen to it these days, I think there was always always something really honest about trance, which, at its best, was dumb and unsubtle but also uplifting, euphoric and life-affirming. When you're 18, it knocks you for six and I have no regrets over those years (marc spoon and torsten fenslau both died way too young...)

...whereas the sound they now call "tech-house" I simply do not 'get', in the same way I do not 'get' Sheeran or Dido or Adele (if any menopausal housewives are reading, perhaps they can explain?)

It's just all so tedious and life-sapping. (I might be tedious too, but the point still stands.)

I think I first realised where this music was heading when I got invited to godskitchen in Birmingham a few years ago where I heard some DJ called James Zabiela play a set which never once deviated from a syncopated drum pattern. I kept waiting and waiting for something to 'happen' and it never did, not right until the end when he finally filtered through some warm pad, by which time the miaow miaow had long worn off. I think that was a foretaste of what was to come...

Somehow (and I don't know why, how or when) this sound took over Ibiza and I think music and club atmospheres have suffered. I remember villalobos and michel cleiss making records with a uniquely ibiza flavour about 10 years back that had people going wow on forums afterwards - and maybe that's been lost? or most wounding of all, maybe nobody really cares anymore...?
 
although I could never listen to it these days, I think there was always always something really honest about trance, which, at its best, was dumb and unsubtle but also uplifting, euphoric and life-affirming. When you're 18, it knocks you for six and I have no regrets over those years (marc spoon and torsten fenslau both died way too young...)

...whereas the sound they now call "tech-house" I simply do not 'get', in the same way I do not 'get' Sheeran or Dido or Adele (if any menopausal housewives are reading, perhaps they can explain?)

It's just all so tedious and life-sapping. (I might be tedious too, but the point still stands.)

I think I first realised where this music was heading when I got invited to godskitchen in Birmingham a few years ago where I heard some DJ called James Zabiela play a set which never once deviated from a syncopated drum pattern. I kept waiting and waiting for something to 'happen' and it never did, not right until the end when he finally filtered through some warm pad, by which time the miaow miaow had long worn off. I think that was a foretaste of what was to come...

Somehow (and I don't know why, how or when) this sound took over Ibiza and I think music and club atmospheres have suffered. I remember villalobos and michel cleiss making records with a uniquely ibiza flavour about 10 years back that had people going wow on forums afterwards - and maybe that's been lost? or most wounding of all, maybe nobody really cares anymore...?

Definitley agree with that last bit. I miss the sounds i used to hear when first getting into the scene.
 
there used to be big euphoric crossover records like Sandcastles, Blackwater, Rej, Jaguar which house, techno and prog DJs alike all knew would destroy dancefloors. whereas now, I'm not sure newer DJs are that interested in letting records dictate the drama though. I think 'drops' changed everything. the crowd expect to hear them now and any DJ feels obliged to keep them happy. so in a way sets have now become about the DJ and not the records. not cool imo.
 
there used to be big euphoric crossover records like Sandcastles, Blackwater, Rej, Jaguar which house, techno and prog DJs alike all knew would destroy dancefloors. whereas now, I'm not sure newer DJs are that interested in letting records dictate the drama though. I think 'drops' changed everything. the crowd expect to hear them now and any DJ feels obliged to keep them happy. so in a way sets have now become about the DJ and not the records. not cool imo.

I feel that is said a bit overly general. there is life apart from all the tech house!
 
as a big trance fan back in the late 90s
genre went far too "commercial" and i drifted to techno via tribal/techy house

still plenty of excellent techno being made
lots of innovative new djs, labels & producers out there with oldtimers like Soma & Slam putting out terrific stuff
and techno also has a massive female input too which is encouraging
 
I guess I'm just trying to understand why 'tech' enjoys such a stranglehold over the dance scene when other forms of dance music are trailing behind - is it just a fad OR is there something more to it?
 
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