first season without after hours

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Wow... because Kate Moss and Naomi Campbell don't want to party all hours!
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...The secretary of state for tourism ... declared ...
that the image of Ibiza within the UK was slowly improving.
He said the British no longer associated the island
with "lager louts" and "hooligans",
adding that the exposure given to Ibiza by celebrities
such as Jade Jagger, Naomi Campbell and Kate Moss, amongst others,
had helped to give Ibiza a more exclusive image ...
... blablabla ... yadayadayada ...
... what is this poor clown talking about ?

AT ALL TIMES "celebrities" were / are coming to ibiza !!

... and ibiza´s "hooligan" image
(btw, never ever heard of this "hooliganimage"-nonsense before)
is predominantly NOT because of the reality @ ibiza,
but because of poor marketing skills of the responsible people ...
 
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... blablabla ... yadayadayada ...
... what is this poor clown talking about ?

AT ALL TIMES "celebrities" were / are coming to ibiza !!

... and ibiza´s "hooligan" image
(btw, never ever heard of this "hooliganimage"-nonsense before)
is predominantly NOT because of the reality @ ibiza,
but because of poor marketing skills of the responsible people ...

Yes it's nonsense, iv'e always associated hooliganism and lager louts with places like Las Americas, Faliraki, Ayia Napa and Magaluf and experienced it first hand when I went to Magaluf on holiday- non stop fights every night, police with batons everywhere and a sea of football shirts!

Iv'e only ever saw one fight in Ibiza that I can recall (at Mambo watching the sunset of all places) and have always associated the Island with fun loving, non violent partying in the sun - for years before my first visit!

Iv'e never associated the island with that hooligan sh1t. If I did I would never have went in the first place!
 
"...
To Ibiza, to party 24x7
...
I have been to 44 countries, and my top eight destinations are
Cape Town, Prague, Koh Samui (Thailand), Ibiza, Sunny Beach (Bulgaria),
Rio de Janeiro, Acapulco (Mexico) and Tallinn (Estonia), in that order.
...
Ibiza, by far has the most vibrant and amazing nightlife.
You can party 24x7, with some clubs opening when the others close, at 10 am.
So even if you fall asleep at night, you can get up at anytime,
and walk into a club, and meet thousands of people.
...
But everything here is ridiculously expensive.
Entrance to a good night club is around Rs 4000 and no drinks included!
..."
(http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Potpourri/To_Ibiza_to_party_24x7/articleshow/3808912.cms)

omg, lets hope that he doesn´t find out that the prices are still the same,
but the "24x7"-party is over ...
 
from the ibiza sun:

THE INTERVIEW - WITH PEPA MARI, COUNCILLOR FOR TOURISM

What was the most positive part of summer 2008?
I believe the most positive aspect was the collaboration of so many different groups to fight the problem of after-hour clubs and bars. This meant bringing together the various Town Halls, as well as the discotheques, to the point where everyone benefited. The consequences of this agreement were less car accidents, fewer A&E admissions, less drug problems, etc.
Which in turn created a better image for the family market?
For families, and for everyone else. I think there is misconception that it is either families or singles. The world is far more complex, and I think all groups can find a place here in Ibiza. This is the great charm of the island, it offers something for everyone.
But it's difficult to separate in Ibiza?
Ibiza combines all different types of tourism and this is part of the magic of the island. It can be mixed, with San Antonio and the Bay being the perfect example. Both sides can enjoy their "part" of the island and what they want from it. The problems come when one of these parts becomes too dominant, and begins to cause damage to those unfamiliar with the island. Those who know Ibiza realise it can all exist here, but the problem is convincing those who don't know. The island is small but all this fits. The difficult part is getting this message across.

as they mentioned many times before, they are super-happy now that "problem" is over ! !
 
you know thats not gonna happen (first of all because that date dont even appear on the calendar :lol:)..... merry christmas my optimistic friend ! !

Yeah i almost know ...
I would say that there as much chance to see the 2 june on a sunday in 2009 as to see space open at 8.am ...
 
from the ibiza sun:

Afters Success

The Town Hall of San Jose has not undertaken any disciplinary action against any establishments since the introduction of the new legislation regarding after-hours clubs and bars. The new measures, first introduced by the Island Council, and adopted by all of the Town Halls on the island, have ensured clubs and bars have had to close by 6 a.m. The exception to this rule is the opening and closing parties, when they are allowed to open at 12 p.m.
The Interior Councillor for the municipality, Francisca Ribas, claimed the regulations had had an extremely positive effect on the island during their first year.
 
"...
Ibiotic Suicide

I have to say that xxx's letter in the Ibiza Sun edition 455 ...
basically echoed everything that most sane people I speak to feel about the island.

He's right, it does sometimes seem as though rather than the island dying,
it's committing suicide.
And he's also right; it does sometimes feel as though what's going on here
is a badly scripted tragedy or comedy
(and if anyone knows about badly scripted comedies it's me).

Most resorts would give their eye teeth for the reputation and unique magic
that Ibiza has but the 'morons' (or as an increasing number of us are calling them,
the 'Ibiots') who make the major decisions here, seem to have the self-awareness
of Coolio or David Van Day when it comes to knowing what's best for the island.

xxx said it's as though they are on some kind of divine mission and he's not far wrong -
it does feel as though there's an almost evangelical zeal to sabotage everything
that has made Ibiza so special.
As an 'outsider' (and let's face it, if you haven't one of about half a dozen surnames,
that's what you'll always be no matter how many properties or businesses
you buy or how many kids you have born here) one cannot help sometimes feeling…
well, resented.

Old Ibicenecos have a well-deserved reputation for liberalism and tolerance
but it feels as though many of their offspring, having benefited from tourism
and the family land being worth lottery winning amounts,
now have an 'I'm alright Jack' attitude a
nd are basically saying "thank you very much, now would you mind all pissing off!."
I've a sneaking feeling that some of this particular kind of animal
are now moving in to positions of power.

And this isn't an ex-pat thing. How would the majority of less privileged Ibicencos cope
if the tourist industry here implodes?
Is Sainsbury's suddenly going to be flooded with Ibiza salt, fish and almonds?
You can't turn the clock back, whether it's to the 1980s when more families came
to ewsorts like Ibiza (because now the only families who come here in the main
are on the dreaded all-inclusive) or whether it's to the balmy and peaceful days
of the 1950s when the best way of getting to San Antonio from Ibiza Town
was by boat!
It's called progress and whilst it's not all good,
one thing you cannot do is stop it.

I really liked xx's blueprint to improve the island's economy.
I don't play golf but there surely can't be any doubt that having a couple
of world class golf courses here would provide the impetus needed to stimulate
the island's winter economy AND move the emphasis away from clubbing in the summer?
Worthy though wanting to attract ramblers, cyclists and junior football tournament fanatics
may be, they aren't going to persuade bars or shops to open in the winter
(and let's be realistic, not in the bloody summer either!).

And annoying though it may be to see some smug bastard in a multi million pound yacht,
another marina that attracts more of those smug bastards and their millions
can only have a financial benefit to the island.

The environment obviously needs to be considered but like anything,
surely it's about causing minimum disruption for maximum gain, discussing,
give and take…as xxx says, at least the rabbits will be happy bouncing around
a golf course rather than being shot at
(didn't they translate Watership Down into Catalan?).

I've always been involved in the club scene yet nothing would give me more pleasure
than to see the demography of tourists visiting Ibiza broaden;
that's broaden not constrict.
Don't try and sacrifice clubbers for ramblers because the ramblers won't come.
Keep the clubbers happy ('happy' rather than totally dominating)
then try and find ways of encouraging other tourist groups
who can stimulate the economy.
Ironically, I actually disagree with xxx when it comes to a carte blanche
for opening hours, but please, let's have some common sense in applying the rules.

I've a friend from one of the old Ibiza families who runs several successful businesses
and is very well travelled.
He told me that he can party within reason when he wants virtually anywhere in the world,
yet if he has a party in his own house and the old lady across the valley calls the police,
he has to stop.
This IS NOT a drug dealer playing trance with hundreds of ne'er-do-wells;
it's a respectable local in his early sixties listening to Perry bleedin' Como
with about twenty of his family once every few years!

One of the most frustrating things is that whilst many of us contribute to the economy
and have a genuine love and respect for the island, our opinions seldom seem
to get heard other than in oracles like this.
It would be good if there were some kind of initiative where politicians harvested ideas
from us. At least we're at the front line and we understand the psychology and needs
of many of those deciding whether or not to come here on holiday.
I'm sorry, but there is no way an ex-school teacher turned politician can know
what British tourists want without listening to the likes of us (those running businesses,
not British politicians).
Ignore what we say if you want, but at least listen to us so you have
a broader understanding of at least one very important part
of the island's tourist economy.

For example, we could tell them that having an Ibiza advert in GQ magazine
featuring two saddoes standing outside Dalt Vila with a map and the strap line
'Ibiza - gateway to culture…' is a complete waste of money.
If I want culture I'll go to Greece or Rome.
If I want to see two twats with a map I'll go to Milton Keynes. :lol: :lol:

If however, I want to see the world's most famous sunset,
or Europe's cleanest beach (or some other award Cala Salada recently received)
I'll come to Ibiza (see, didn't even mention a club).
At the moment, the most accurate strap line for an Ibiza advert would be
"Ibiza - the island that can't say 'yes'…"

The Ibiots making decisions need more self-awareness and to understand
what real tourists actually want, not what they think some composite tourist would like.
They need to realise that trying to stop VIP car services is all well and good
but at least have a home-grown alternative first.
What, is Abramovich's 14 year old son going to stand at the San An taxi rank
with his bodyguards for an hour when he wants to go to Pacha?

They need to realise that when fewer people come into your bar or club,
the answer isn`t to put your prices up - it's to be more creative.
It's to offer better value for money.
And sorry, I love Pacha but 13€ for a Corona in winter?
What credit crunch..? isn`t

Their needs to be a collective removal of heads from sand,
to wake up to what's going on in the world,
to appreciate Ibiza's unique position within that world
and to realise that the halcyon days are gone;
just opening your doors is no longer enough.

Still, if the Ibiots in power do screw things up for everyone the one positive aspect
will be that at least it will unite those who were for and against the development
of the Ibiza to San Antonio road.
Tumbleweed doesn't need a motorway…

Colin Butts
..."
(ibiza-sun, Our Readers write... )
 
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Sorry but it is really of what I think ibiza without after and now without dc10 is not ibiza
 
those who pay attention know that, even if in theory were banned, there was various bars in ibiza town opening as after hours last summer (theres still three this winter)..... well, this morning the ibiza town council approved some changes in their laws concerning the time bars can play music: before they could do it from 8am, now they cant till 10am. will that change anything? will these after hours open later?? will they open at the same time and play the bongos for a couple of hours till they switch the speakers??? no idea ! !

(among other things, they also changed the fines for those not respecting the closing times to avoid some of last summer's completely unfair fines... from now on the fines will depend on the number of people inside the premises and its capacity)

more details in the newspapers tomorrow.....
 
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