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ElrowLovers

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Thanks, I like to try and read actual research not peoples opinions and experiences where possible concerning things like this, which is why I asked the source of the info.
On 5htp - serotonine syndrome risks: here, there, more and this.


Lots of threads to be found. Bottomline is this: with 5htp you're messing with your biological serotonine levels. It's pretty obvious that combining (i.e. taking it before) it with MDMA ...a substance that will give green light to your receptors to release a lot of serotoinine.. is not the smartest idea.
Taking 5htp after (with green tea extract) is a good idea.
 
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ElrowLovers

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I also see a lot of people talking about Grapefruit juice and how it enhances your roll.
Now, I also know from experience that lots of people using MDMA like sex on MDMA when they are done partying and that the pills willy gets in the way of that. Now if you are taking Viagra or Cialis or whatever pill to battle the pills willy DO NOT drink grapefruit juice.
You might think I'm kidding, but that combination is seriously dangerous. :)
 

Gingersolstice

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On 5htp - serotonine syndrome risks:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MDMA/comments/1vhdks https://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/3kvm0s https://www.reddit.com/r/BurningMan/comments/6s111j
Lots of opinions. Bottomline is this: with 5htp you're messing with your biological serotonine levels. It's pretty obvious that comining (i.e. taking it before) it with MDMA ...a substance that will give green light to your receptors to release a lot of serotoinine.. is not the smartest idea.
Taking 5htp after (with green tea extract) is a good idea.
Thanks @ElrowLovers. I get the theory behind it and I'm not doubting it, I just like to see the facts as it interests me. I like to be as informed as possible concerning these things ?. I will have a search around i know some good websites.
 

stivi

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I also see a lot of people talking about Grapefruit juice and how it enhances your roll.
Now, I also know from experience that lots of people using MDMA like sex on MDMA when they are done partying and that the pills willy gets in the way of that. Now if you are taking Viagra or Cialis or whatever pill to battle the pills willy DO NOT drink grapefruit juice.
You might think I'm kidding, but that combination is seriously dangerous. :)
I always thought citrics will flatten the roll rather than enhance it. or is grapefruit not considered a citric?
 

cunninghamali

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Chest pains aren't a good sign and probably mean you should re-evaluate how much you do in a session. I sometimes get them too btw, or at least twinges.
Thank f*** I am not the only one that gets them, I know.. Trying to take a break from it now until ibiza ha, my nose is f***ed too think I have sinus problems from taking too much
 

Zapclub93

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I always thought citrics will flatten the roll rather than enhance it. or is grapefruit not considered a citric?
The other theory is that a component of grapefruit juice blocks some of the bodies conversion of Mdma to Mda (which is more neurotoxic) and mda is the one that gives
More Hallucinations / visual effects so
I guess you could say it flattens it if
You like that effect
 

MIA2IBZ

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I've always heard orange juice and vitamin C boosts your roll. I would take vitamin C and 5htp leading up to WMC ( heavy week of partying in miami) and never rly never had problems dropping multiple days/nights except being rly tired the following week. Think I'll buy some today and start taking for a week until I get there.

I think what's also important that often gets overlooked is eating and drinking water. I know sometimes the last thing you wanna do is eat after but you have to and don't forget To hydrate. Im taking some hydration packets that you mix in a water bottle that give you electrolytes and vitamins.

Changing the subject a bit, is it ok to smoke weed openly inside parties or is it something that needs to be hidden? I know out in the streets and sidewalks not recommended but I'm curious about inside clubs and venues
 

Johnny Vodka

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Lots of threads to be found. Bottomline is this: with 5htp you're messing with your biological serotonine levels. It's pretty obvious that combining (i.e. taking it before) it with MDMA ...a substance that will give green light to your receptors to release a lot of serotoinine.. is not the smartest idea.
Taking 5htp after (with green tea extract) is a good idea.
This is all assuming there is much evidence that 5-htp works, and I'm not sure that there is. Personally, I'm unconvinced by it, and I say that as someone who took it regularly for a few years.
 

ElrowLovers

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I've always heard orange juice and vitamin C boosts your roll. I would take vitamin C and 5htp leading up to WMC ( heavy week of partying in miami) and never rly never had problems dropping multiple days/nights except being rly tired the following week. Think I'll buy some today and start taking for a week until I get there.

I think what's also important that often gets overlooked is eating and drinking water. I know sometimes the last thing you wanna do is eat after but you have to and don't forget To hydrate. Im taking some hydration packets that you mix in a water bottle that give you electrolytes and vitamins.

Changing the subject a bit, is it ok to smoke weed openly inside parties or is it something that needs to be hidden? I know out in the streets and sidewalks not recommended but I'm curious about inside clubs and venues
I don't think vitamin C boosts the roll. But if you take like 200mg before you roll it is said to protect your brain from neurotoxicity.
So good to do anyway :)
 

MrHullMysterious

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I've always heard orange juice and vitamin C boosts your roll. I would take vitamin C and 5htp leading up to WMC ( heavy week of partying in miami) and never rly never had problems dropping multiple days/nights except being rly tired the following week. Think I'll buy some today and start taking for a week until I get there.

I think what's also important that often gets overlooked is eating and drinking water. I know sometimes the last thing you wanna do is eat after but you have to and don't forget To hydrate. Im taking some hydration packets that you mix in a water bottle that give you electrolytes and vitamins.

Changing the subject a bit, is it ok to smoke weed openly inside parties or is it something that needs to be hidden? I know out in the streets and sidewalks not recommended but I'm curious about inside clubs and venues
On the food thing I agree. Actually if you're just drinking water all night you can get a bit frazzled with low blood sugar, so a few full fat cokes can help with that. Well does for me.
 
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