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Last year i was there for 14 nights and did the same soundclouds on around 7 occasions, started on a half but by the end would do the whole one over the night + was drinking every day (Pretty heavily, even on MD). When i came home i was waking up around 50 times a night, the majority with sleep paralysis, sometimes falling asleep, having it (Which felt like a while) and waking up within a minute. I was also waking up with my body giving me violent shakes/shocks whilst i was asleep which were pretty scary. I however took nothing like 5HTP, I'm assuming that i'm a lost cause and this wouldn't make things better for me at all.. ?‍♂️ I still wake up a lot in the night now and i'm so used to sleep paralysis that when i'm having it i'm aware i'm in it and just have to wait to try and get out.
 
ElrowLovers said:
Always take 5THP every morning a week after. However...if you are doing pills multiple days in a row NEVER take 5HTP between those pills please.
It can lead to serotonine syndrome.
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Yeah I was thinking maybe dose on my day off them then repeat a couple days when I'm home?
 
Gingersolstice said:
What's serotonin syndrome? And were did you read info/research regarding this please?
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Wikipedia has useful info about this. Probs not as in depth as the other places suggested.

Here is an interesting read about MDMA and how they think it works, toxicity and all that kind of stuff & how to be safe etc. (Hope posting such link is ok?)

MDMA Neurochemistry Slideshow | DanceSafe https://dancesafe.org/drug-information/ecstasy-slideshow/
 
Browny said:
Im not encouraging it at all but come on. 2 nights on the jack and jills isn’t ‘much’ compared to what people do: no way you would be ill for that long after. Defs something dodgy imo
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This is why it goes wrong with lots of people imho. It's comparing with other people and I know it's easy to fall for that, I've been there.
But you should really set your own limits and boundaries based on experience and research and not look at what the average partygoer does. Because that can easily turn into some sort of comforting yourself with worse examples and well...theres always someone doing more.
So while you're not encouraging, I was nog judging. I was just saying it could be a triple dose of MDMA in 24-36 hour instead of something dodgy.
 
MrHullMysterious said:
Wikipedia has useful info about this. Probs not as in depth as the other places suggested.

Here is an interesting read about MDMA and how they think it works, toxicity and all that kind of stuff & how to be safe etc. (Hope posting such link is ok?)

MDMA Neurochemistry Slideshow | DanceSafe https://dancesafe.org/drug-information/ecstasy-slideshow/
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Thanks, I like to try and read actual research not peoples opinions and experiences where possible concerning things like this, which is why I asked the source of the info.
 
Gingersolstice said:
Thanks, I like to try and read actual research not peoples opinions and experiences where possible concerning things like this, which is why I asked the source of the info.
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On 5htp - serotonine syndrome risks: here, there, more and this.


Lots of threads to be found. Bottomline is this: with 5htp you're messing with your biological serotonine levels. It's pretty obvious that combining (i.e. taking it before) it with MDMA ...a substance that will give green light to your receptors to release a lot of serotoinine.. is not the smartest idea.
Taking 5htp after (with green tea extract) is a good idea.
 
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I also see a lot of people talking about Grapefruit juice and how it enhances your roll.
Now, I also know from experience that lots of people using MDMA like sex on MDMA when they are done partying and that the pills willy gets in the way of that. Now if you are taking Viagra or Cialis or whatever pill to battle the pills willy DO NOT drink grapefruit juice.
You might think I'm kidding, but that combination is seriously dangerous. :)
 
ElrowLovers said:
On 5htp - serotonine syndrome risks:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MDMA/comments/1vhdks
drugs-forum.com

Health - Preloading and Postloading with MDMA

MDMA (3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine) is thought to be potentially neurotoxic due to free radicals (atoms or molecules which have an unpaired...
drugs-forum.com drugs-forum.com
https://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/3kvm0s
https://www.reddit.com/r/BurningMan/comments/6s111j

Lots of opinions. Bottomline is this: with 5htp you're messing with your biological serotonine levels. It's pretty obvious that comining (i.e. taking it before) it with MDMA ...a substance that will give green light to your receptors to release a lot of serotoinine.. is not the smartest idea.
Taking 5htp after (with green tea extract) is a good idea.
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Thanks @ElrowLovers. I get the theory behind it and I'm not doubting it, I just like to see the facts as it interests me. I like to be as informed as possible concerning these things ?. I will have a search around i know some good websites.
 
ElrowLovers said:
I also see a lot of people talking about Grapefruit juice and how it enhances your roll.
Now, I also know from experience that lots of people using MDMA like sex on MDMA when they are done partying and that the pills willy gets in the way of that. Now if you are taking Viagra or Cialis or whatever pill to battle the pills willy DO NOT drink grapefruit juice.
You might think I'm kidding, but that combination is seriously dangerous. :)
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I always thought citrics will flatten the roll rather than enhance it. or is grapefruit not considered a citric?
 
Johnny Vodka said:
Chest pains aren't a good sign and probably mean you should re-evaluate how much you do in a session. I sometimes get them too btw, or at least twinges.
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Thank f*** I am not the only one that gets them, I know.. Trying to take a break from it now until ibiza ha, my nose is f***ed too think I have sinus problems from taking too much
 
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