drug controls in the pre-party bars!!

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1 british and 2 italians dedicated to the distribution of drugs to other small dealers were arrested yesterday after lots of investigations. 6.500 pills, 110 gr of cocaine in rock form, 800 doses of mdma, etc were found:

:arrow: http://www.diariodeibiza.es/secciones/noticia.jsp?pIdNoticia=71585
:arrow: http://www.ultimahora.es/ibiza/segunda-ib.dba?-1+1006+329864

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Coffeetime said:
The police authorities reacted to the drug situation by saying that they were going to adopt a zero tolerance policy to the consumption, sale & possession of such drugs in Ibiza. They said that they were not worried even if they had to close down in mid August certain prestigious entertainment complexes. However the authorities are going to hold meetings with the entertainment & leisure industry on the island as well as with other affected interest groups to decide how best to work together & combat the drugs problem in Ibiza & the bad image this gives the island.
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I dont get it!! why now???? the island has been kicking for almost 20 years drugs have been on the island and clubs for longer!
im sure during the 80's 90's drigs were everywhere and freely people taking it.. but now they decide they dont want that image anymore!!
a Zero tolerance policy! hahahaha wow.. I think this will give ibiza a bad name in many peoples eyes. but a great image boost for other people
still does that stop the chavs from the westend drinking their booze?
thats a pretty ugly scene! im sure many families stay away becuase of that..
young hooligans on the piss falling over each other and throwing up all over street..

dance drugs need to be made legal! their needs to be school education classes for drugs and alcohol , people need to have body checks before they allowed to purchase drugs, better for them and safer, only certain drugs can be sold to them due to their body type etc..
government made drugs also means the safest it can possibly be .
the problem is the people who are dying and uneducated kids about drugs they have no idea that a little SIP of GHB can be seriouly dangerous
mixing it with alcohol etc..
youth today need to be educated on drugs.. becuase drugs are here in soceity and the governments dont want to admit it! they only want to open treatment centres! itsn time to open education centres!

you dont see to many middle aged or experienced drug users dying!!
its usually the young ones who dont know anything about drugs!
and their is no older or wiser person showing him or teaching him
when I first started taking drugs I was 17, did coke, extacy, lsd, speed,
and the person I was with was 35 and he educated me on all the drugs and taught me vital things I need to know..

these kids are dying becuase they have no idea whats going on!
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great points...let me touch on just two:

the piss heads: I took my first trip to Ibiza, and Europe at all for that matter...a month ago. The piss heads are not as bad as I thought they would be. Definitely a bunch of drunks acting a little nuts...but I mean I'm used to that being from nj/ny. I thought they were actuallly pretty nice. mabe I just got along with them because I'm a drunk, also. I didn't find them as offensive as people made them out to be. Although I can see how people find them annoying.

As for legalizing drugs...never happen man, at least not in the US. You know how much dirty money gets passed through from Mexican druglords to American policy makers? Plus, you can't tax it. People wouldn't vote for the person or party that decided that it's ok to let your sons and daughters do X. It's just not a good thing. if it's illegal, eventually they will grow out of the phase and realize that they need their brain cells for a lot of other things. I've done basically every drug in the book, and took my first X at manumission opener...never forget it. But do you want your children doing that? Or at least knowing that they are doing it? Keep it against the law....it's better for everyone. let me know your thoughts people?
 
McRackin said:
paquita/A.D.I.
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interview with the president of the asociación de discotecas about drugs, etc here:
:arrow: http://www.diariodeibiza.es/secciones/noticia.jsp?pIdNoticia=71704

she also mentions that they are planning to do a music fair at the end of may with djs, promoters, etc:
:arrow: http://www.diariodeibiza.es/secciones/noticia.jsp?pIdNoticia=71705

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btw, another 4 persons arrested and 600 gr of cocaine found:
:arrow: http://www.diariodeibiza.es/secciones/noticia.jsp?pIdNoticia=71708
:arrow: http://www.ultimahora.es/ibiza/segunda-ib.dba?-1+1006+330020
 
GazDaBomb said:
nish said:
you do know ghb is safer than pills right mate?
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I dont agree with that at all. People can say no drug is safer than another but im afraid it is. The governmant have class A drugs. it dosent mean all drugs in that class are as bad as each other. Magic mushrooms are now a class A drug, Dosent mean its as bad as heroin.

Ive heard allot more stories about GHB than i have about pills. In what way is it safer?
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Yes indeed, that was my point.
 
McRackin said:
another 4 persons arrested and 600 gr of cocaine found:
:arrow: http://www.diariodeibiza.es/secciones/noticia.jsp?pIdNoticia=71708
:arrow: http://www.ultimahora.es/ibiza/segunda-ib.dba?-1+1006+330020
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they kept investigating the argentinian guy behind this group and found another kilo of cocaine (some of it in rock form) plus 8.500 pills, 3.200 doses of mdma, etc:
:arrow: http://www.diariodeibiza.es/secciones/noticia.jsp?pIdNoticia=71923
:arrow: http://www.ultimahora.es/ibiza/segunda-ib.dba?-1+1006+330155

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btw, another 5 persons intoxicated by ghb attended in can misses:
:arrow: http://www.diariodeibiza.es/secciones/noticia.jsp?pIdNoticia=71931
 
McRackin said:
McRackin said:
another 4 persons arrested and 600 gr of cocaine found:
:arrow: http://www.diariodeibiza.es/secciones/noticia.jsp?pIdNoticia=71708
:arrow: http://www.ultimahora.es/ibiza/segunda-ib.dba?-1+1006+330020
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they kept investigating the argentinian guy behind this group and found another kilo of cocaine (some of it in rock form) plus 8.500 pills, 3.200 doses of mdma, etc:
:arrow: http://www.diariodeibiza.es/secciones/noticia.jsp?pIdNoticia=71923
:arrow: http://www.ultimahora.es/ibiza/segunda-ib.dba?-1+1006+330155

2005-08-30_IMG_2005-08-23_00.45.01__44-DIB-23082005.JPG


btw, another 5 persons intoxicated by ghb attended in can misses:
:arrow: http://www.diariodeibiza.es/secciones/noticia.jsp?pIdNoticia=71931
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Are there English translations for these links?
 
GHB is less harmful than MDMA

GazDaBomb said:
nish said:
you do know ghb is safer than pills right mate?
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I dont agree with that at all.
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It's not really a matter of opinion, GHB is pharmacologically a lot less toxic than even pure MDMA. This is because GHB is a naturally occurring substance in the human body which is metabolised into carbon dioxde and water, neither of which are toxic. Overdose of GHB results in a deep sleep as it's a CNS depressant but does not harm body tissues. On the other hand MDMA is a stimulant which causes release of toxic free radicals in addition to other effects such as draining of serotonin reserves and possible serotonergic neurotoxicity. GHB does not have these toxic effects.

Compared to alcohol, GHB is a lot less toxic as alcohol is a solvent, destroying nerve cell linings by itself, and is metabolised into toxic substances such as formaldehyde.

In itself GHB is one of the least toxic drugs around. The dangers associated are with combination of large amounts of alcohol and the normal dangers of passing out (e.g. choking on puke).

Persecution of responsible GHB use is thus completely without merit, as responsible GHB use is much less harmful alternative than any of the other common drugs taken at clubs, such as alcohol, pills and coke.
 
man alot of people could have had some good times with their gear! :evil:
damn!!
nice bust for the cops! but a shame for the people who wanted to party.
still im sure it wont put to much of a dent in the scene! but still that was alot of pills.. damn those guys caught are looking at some years!!
maybe 3-5 yeah?
 
Re: GHB is less harmful than MDMA

Petrus said:
GazDaBomb said:
nish said:
you do know ghb is safer than pills right mate?
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I dont agree with that at all.
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It's not really a matter of opinion, GHB is pharmacologically a lot less toxic than even pure MDMA. This is because GHB is a naturally occurring substance in the human body which is metabolised into carbon dioxde and water, neither of which are toxic. Overdose of GHB results in a deep sleep as it's a CNS depressant but does not harm body tissues. On the other hand MDMA is a stimulant which causes release of toxic free radicals in addition to other effects such as draining of serotonin reserves and possible serotonergic neurotoxicity. GHB does not have these toxic effects.

Compared to alcohol, GHB is a lot less toxic as alcohol is a solvent, destroying nerve cell linings by itself, and is metabolised into toxic substances such as formaldehyde.

In itself GHB is one of the least toxic drugs around. The dangers associated are with combination of large amounts of alcohol and the normal dangers of passing out (e.g. choking on puke).

Persecution of responsible GHB use is thus completely without merit, as responsible GHB use is much less harmful alternative than any of the other common drugs taken at clubs, such as alcohol, pills and coke.
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But take Ibiza over the last few weeks and GHB is putting a lot of people in hospital / the ground.

As most people imbibe drugs after or with alcohol it is very unsafe. The only personal friends that have been hospitalised due to drugs have all involved GHB. The science doesn't stack up with the hard facts and figures on casualties.
 
for those who have to use a translator to understand spanish:

Anti Drugs Campaign.
After recent spate of drug overdoses on the island & a drug induced death 2 weeks ago, the Madrid Central Government Political Representative in charge of the National Police & Guardia Civil throughout the Baleares, Ramon Socias, visited the island. Socias had talks with his right hand man here on the island, Jose Manuel Bar & the Consell Island Government, all the Town Halls on the island (not true as it only included the ones with clubs: san josé, san antonio and ibiza town - Mc), Police chiefs & representatives of the big clubs. It was apparently decided to improve the police installations on the island & carry out increased vigilance at the ports & airport. Extra sniffer dogs will be brought to the island & there will be a return of the special police squads dedicated to investigating crimes such as the drugs trade which have supposedly not functioned for some time.
The idea is to also control the opening & closing times of the entertainment industry & control the legal capacities. It seems that they particularly want to clamp down on after hours & make sure there is a period of time when there are no entertainments centres open on the island to try & stop the "party" lasting 24 hours. For this to happen the Town Halls have to agree to operate the same bye-laws in this matter & there will be regular meetings with the discos to talk about problems & solutions.
Private parties & fiestas on the beach or in other public spaces will be controlled & stopped if they are illegal & an extra special push will be made to control street drinking & youngsters buying alcohol from supermarkets & then holding an impromptu party wherever they are.
Efforts will supposedly be made to control the negative promotion of the island because of our association with drugs & "non stop party". Other positive facets of the island will be pushed. Socias said that those who didn't collaborate in this fight against drugs in benefit of all the island would feel the full force of the law applied to them.

Drugs Information Program.
Consisting of health, hygiene, addiction & personal safety information in 6 languages to be displayed in the clubs on the island as well as information to staff on how to administer first aid to a drug overdose victims, the disco association has signed an agreement with the Balearic Government to increase the level of consciousness about illegal drugs amongst the clients using their establishments. This agreement appears to be in response to the recent drug problems on the island & will be built into the new drug dependence laws being drawn up by the Balearic Government.

Drugs Detentions.
Following on from the announcement of this new police anti drugs campaign, only 2 days later 2 Italians & a British man were detained on the island for drugs trafficking. All were supposedly supplying dealers at street level & had 6.500 pills & 110 grams of cocaine in small blocks in their possession. The gang also had quantities of other drugs, money & state of the art mobile phones as well as equipment for cutting, weighing & distributing the drugs stored in a flat police searched in Eivissa Town.
The Police said that the investigation into this gang has been going on for a while & more detentions are expected. It appears the 3 dealers lived in a luxury villa on the outskirts of Eivissa Town but also rented a flat in the centre of the town to carry out their drug operation. The drugs appear to have been made & imported from Holland arriving on the island via the U.K.

600 Grams Of Cocaine Apprehended.
In what was described as a major success against narcotic trafficking throughout Spain, the police in Eivissa Town detained an Argentinean man, 2 Spanish women & a Rumanian woman on the island last week. Reports said that over 600 grams of cocaine were discovered at the time the detentions were made & that the gang had substantial quantities of other drugs such as ecstasy pills. It appears that the detained suspects are supposedly part of a larger gang dedicated to selling cocaine & other drugs throughout Spain. On the island the 4 detained persons were using 2 public internet offices & a bar they ran, to sell drugs to their customers. Police sources said that more detentions are anticipated as the investigation unfolds. (this part is already dated. as previously reported, they kept investigating the argentinian and found another kilo of cocaine plus 8.500 pills, 3.200 doses of mdma, etc - Mc)

Drug Cases at Can Misses Hospital.
4 out of every 5 drug cases attended to at the Can Misses hospital on the island is a foreign person or Spanish person who does not live on the island. To give some idea of the scale of the problem, between 01-07-05 & 10-08-05 the emergency unit dealt with 7351 causalities of which 87 were drug related. There are some reports that say that there has been a spectacular increase in drug related emergencies in the last few days & some experts calculated that up to 240 cases have been dealt with up to now whilst during the whole of 2004 the hospital only attended 153 drug related emergencies. It was also reported that most of the drug casualties, around 70%, were men & most were between the ages of 18 to 30 years old. However, alcohol is still the drug that gives most problems registering 48% of the cases treated but worryingly the cases caused by cocaine, amphetamines, cannabis, Ketamina & GHB "liquid ecstasy" are catching up.

2 Women Taken To Hospital after Mixing Booze & Drugs.
2 young British girls, one of whom appears to have been working on the island, were rushed to hospital last week after taking drugs mixed with alcohol in the West End of Sant Antoni. Both girls were in a bad state & one actually fell into a coma before reaching hospital. It is thought that the girls had taken amphetamines & possibly liquid ecstasy (GBH) as well as lots of alcohol whilst on a night out in the town.
Later in the week another young woman & a young man were admitted to hospital suffering from the affects of GBH. Luckily a friend of the man took the bottle he had been sold the GBH in with him to the hospital & gave it to the authorities. They will now test the substance to see if their theory that the GBH being sold on the island is adulterated in some way causing this spate of overdoses taking place at the moment supposedly related to this drug. (this part is dated too. as previously reported, another 5 persons were attended in can misses this weekend after taking ghb - Mc)

(the ibiza sun)
 
source www.talktofrank.com

Not to be mistaken with GBH the crime, although there are reasons why people might confuse the two. GHB is a dangerous drug which can cause grievous bodily harm. That's because it's hard to tell the difference between a dose that gives a pleasant buzz and an overdose that could kill you.

It is very dangerous and can be fatal when mixed with alcohol or other drugs.
Users can lose consciousness, as it's hard to know what strength the dose is.
Too many hits could cause sickness, stiff muscles, fits and collapse.
No one knows what GHB could do to you 20 years down the line.
Because GHB can really knock you out it's been linked to drug assisted sexual assault. And because it's almost tasteless it's easily slipped in a drink. In a Home Office report in June 2000, 123 victims of drug-assisted assaults were questioned and 70% of the rapists were known to the victim. One in five could not remember the assault but 70% felt physically unable to resist. *

Including my friend in space last year. Spiked with GHB and raped. By men!!

A lot worse than an E in his eyes? :cry: :cry:
 
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