Dance Music: Where are things at?

The Sun God said:
Is this true? Nobody getting mullered anymore?

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With clubs closing and the rise of no-alcohol Britain, is this the death of the big night out?

Britons are drinking less and less now. In many ways, this is a good thing - but with the night-time economy already struggling, businesses are being forced to adapt. Watch a Sky News report on why young people are drinking less below.
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To a degree. In a drinking town, it's noticeable how the night time economy has taken a big hit even before covid. The licensing laws have not helped, there were clear runs into town when i started going out circa 2000. These started at 4-6pm, all these routes headed to one area with bars open until 12am at the latest, then the clubs opened until 2am. The taxis and take aways knew where they sat in kicking out time. Then the licence allowed clubs to open until 6-8am. Supermarket beer prices v pub prices became crazy. People do not go out until 12-1am, the taxis and take aways do not get the same trade, older people do not want to go to dead bars or stay out until 8am.

At the same time, young people go out for coffee, waffles and food courts. Business owners have changed to accommodate this youth culture, i've sat with bar/club owners and traditinal shop owners who are being left behind - some get it, some don't.

The number of mullered people is decreasing, those sticking the course are getting more mullered 🙃
 
claretclubber said:
To a degree. In a drinking town, it's noticeable how the night time economy has taken a big hit even before covid. The licensing laws have not helped, there were clear runs into town when i started going out circa 2000. These started at 4-6pm, all these routes headed to one area with bars open until 12am at the latest, then the clubs opened until 2am. The taxis and take aways knew where they sat in kicking out time. Then the licence allowed clubs to open until 6-8am. Supermarket beer prices v pub prices became crazy. People do not go out until 12-1am, the taxis and take aways do not get the same trade, older people do not want to go to dead bars or stay out until 8am.

At the same time, young people go out for coffee, waffles and food courts. Business owners have changed to accommodate this youth culture, i've sat with bar/club owners and traditinal shop owners who are being left behind - some get it, some don't.

The number of mullered people is decreasing, those sticking the course are getting more mullered 🙃
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I've now been out the UK for 8 years and it feels like it has changed so much! I haven't noticed it here where I am as much because although there are more daytime things like everywhere there was never that much of a drinking culture. As someone who grew up - virtually lived! - in clubs, it's weird how they're gradually becoming extinct. I guess each gen just adapts best it can
 
I like many oarts of Sacha Lord contribution to NW Club culture but there's a certain irony to his comments, when his nights are £50 entrance and £7 p/drink - no wonder kids cant go out midweek!

Thinking about it, I have two nieces, one soon to be 15 and the other 18 years old. Neither have been out drinking in town or talked about it, this is the complete opposite to when I was growing up - even the smarter kids and 'geeks' would go out occasionally.
 
There will always be stuff going on in London. People adapt, move on. There's always a railway arch, old church or light industrial estate somewhere. Plus all the demographics, different cultures and established scenes. But whether the kids still see it in the same way, who knows...
 
The biggest club in town closed on Saturday (it will reopen) mainly because they keep getting in trouble with the licensing people for not dealing with violence. In my mid 20's I went every week, it's not a clubbing club anymore but somewhere that stayed open until 7/8am. Same people run another rough hole.

There was a tech house night on Saturday, run by a young lad (25yr old) which some friends played at. Think they had 4 or 5 B2B2B's 🙄😅

I was in a neighbouring town after an engagement do but couldnt muster anyone to go over at 2am. Probably a good thing 😁
 
claretclubber said:
Another take on the decreasing number of UK nightclubs
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/feb/29/britain-nightclubs-nightlife-rave
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Biggest factors in my opinion are people saving up to go to one big event/gig/festival/holiday rather than be out every weekend in their local club. Wanting a good back drop for the social media content is also a factor here.

Also I'm old enough just to remember when it was more black and white on what was a pub and what was a club. It was last orders in the pub at 11 no exceptions, after that you headed to a club. Now you've got a variety of closing times, and even some clubs opening early for events so the club crowd has got diluted.
 
Digital2013 said:
Biggest factors in my opinion are people saving up to go to one big event/gig/festival/holiday rather than be out every weekend in their local club. Wanting a good back drop for the social media content is also a factor here.

Also I'm old enough just to remember when it was more black and white on what was a pub and what was a club. It was last orders in the pub at 11 no exceptions, after that you headed to a club. Now you've got a variety of closing times, and even some clubs opening early for events so the club crowd has got diluted.
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Yeah, plus bars muscling in with louder music and later licences. That fcked the clubs too. Only a brave bastard would open a club now. Just glad I was around during the good times
 
The Sun God said:
Yeah, plus bars muscling in with louder music and later licences. That fcked the clubs too. Only a brave bastard would open a club now. Just glad I was around during the good times
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Bizarre though it is to think of, the smoking ban had a significant effect. (So I recall, in any case)
 
My son was nearly born to Murder on the Dance floor. It wasn’t even on the playlist but Spotify ‘slipped’ into random at some point mid labour 😂
 
Much as I love SEB this reflects badly on her imo.. she must’ve surely known beforehand how crass this would look
 
A guy I know posted something yesterday to the effect he can’t get dj gigs anymore because he refuses to do social media. Musically more talented that all those insta show ponies put together. Grim times indeed.
 
The Sun God said:
Much as I love SEB this reflects badly on her imo.. she must’ve surely known beforehand how crass this would look
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Having listened to my missus sit and book tours for many big acts, it's not certain that SEB would have even checked where she was going tbf. Just looked at her website and the March Paris gig is one of the 13 in 18 days through Europe.
 
jimmiz said:
She had nice words for the victims before singing her song, and nobody here in France has been shocked by the fact she sang it at the Bataclan.
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I was actually just thinking this! I can just imagine the French just saying what is the fuss, get on with it.
 
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