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MrHullMysterious said:
now starting to see the deaths pilling up. (Excess deaths are now on rise again)
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Are they? I suppose that's the reason for my question really. I'd seen something about standard flu and pneumonia death rates being lower than normal as if covid deaths had just replaced those ones. I wonder what will happen in say 6 months time if the cases are extremely high like they are predicting, but deaths remain relatively low? Thanks for the explanation.
 
BareBen91 said:
Are they? I suppose that's the reason for my question really. I'd seen something about standard flu and pneumonia death rates being lower than normal as if covid deaths had just replaced those ones. I wonder what will happen in say 6 months time if the cases are extremely high like they are predicting, but deaths remain relatively low? Thanks for the explanation.
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Flu and pneumonia likely to be lower with increased uptake of the flu vaccine and social distancing, etc. However overall Covid is going to kill a hell of lot more than a really, really bad flu season

I will be amazed if deaths are low between now and March (I won't say remain as they arent low now in the UK). Hospitals are now getting the admissions from the high numbers of positive cases over the last month. So far survivability is higher but Covid is still killing a substantial proportion of those admitted with it.

The feeling here is it wont ever get as horrific as March but will last months rather than weeks
 
The ways things are going on the continent, I can't imagine a scenario where the UK isn't all tier 3/lockdowned soon. The government pulled the trigger too late in March. How are they going to react second time around?

I do think there will be attempts to keep the economy trickling along now that businesses are prepared, but it's going to be a long winter
 
Hally said:
Flu and pneumonia likely to be lower with increased uptake of the flu vaccine and social distancing, etc. However overall Covid is going to kill a hell of lot more than a really, really bad flu season

I will be amazed if deaths are low between now and March (I won't say remain as they arent low now in the UK). Hospitals are now getting the admissions from the high numbers of positive cases over the last month. So far survivability is higher but Covid is still killing a substantial proportion of those admitted with it.

The feeling here is it wont ever get as horrific as March but will last months rather than weeks
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Are you sure covid is going to kill a lot more than Flu , 50,000 excess deaths in 2017/18 seems to indicate that a lot of this is flu deaths and thats with a (ineffective) vaccine?

www.independent.co.uk

Ineffective flu vaccine contributed to 50,000 extra deaths last winter

Human suffering and lost lives over winter 'predictable, preventable and shameful', fuel poverty campaigners say
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
 
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lcoverdale said:
Are you sure covid is going to kill a lot more than Flu , 50,000 excess deaths in 2017/18 seems to indicate that a lot of this is flu deaths and thats with a (ineffective) vaccine?

www.independent.co.uk

Ineffective flu vaccine contributed to 50,000 extra deaths last winter

Human suffering and lost lives over winter 'predictable, preventable and shameful', fuel poverty campaigners say
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
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Goes to show how bad things can be without an effective vaccine. Covid probs worse than flu due to the weird long covid and other ways it affects the body which is different from seasonal flu.

Also depending on how you calc the stats, covid has killed between 45k - 65k people already. Still not reached winter months yet. ?
 

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Back on topic (sadly) most of North Yorkshire been put into tier 3 now. Surely it’s a matter of time before we’re all there?
 
Browny said:
Back on topic (sadly) most of North Yorkshire been put into tier 3 now. Surely it’s a matter of time before we’re all there?
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Suspect so. Sad thing is even tier 3 they don't think will reduce the prevalence, just slow the increase or "hold" it at the current levels.

Guess need to find myself a bubble buddy ??
 
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