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stivi said:
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Pachá da por perdida la temporada turística y avisa a sus trabajadores

@Noudiari / El Grupo Pachá Ibiza ha informado a sus trabajadores del ERTE «por fuerza mayor» que ya se está tramitando debido al estado de alarma por la crisis sanitaria del Covid-19. Pero además, avisa que «una vez finalizado el estado de alarma, la empresa convocará al comité de empresa para...
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The last sentence translates to "it does not look like there will be summer in Pacha for this season".

Suppose that is all obvious, but just still feels so strange.

They have a club that is half way through a refurb just sitting there. Maybe I am overreacting, but imagine we never see some of these places open again?
 
feynman said:
US has 2000 additional deaths in 24 hours , caused by covid. If it goes further , there will be 3000 a day , next week.
Can see how dangerous this virus is.

Btw : US had 5000 deads per week in the pacific , to see what the number means: Its like a war
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Keep in mind the scale of the county (330M). We had about 8K deaths daily before all this, all causes.

Here the at risk population includes not only the old. Many of the lifestyle issues we had before with obesity and diabetes is coming back to haunt us. There is also a significant proportion of the population, including members of national and local government that are fundamentally opposed to the idea of limiting freedom of movement.

As a non-expert: I think we will have a rough time, but may get to end of this without big 2nd, 3rd and 4th waves of this. Currently a handfull of the larger metro areas are getting his hard.
 
Springal said:
Big blow to herd immunity conspiracy theorists - https://nypost.com/2020/04/07/51-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-positive-again-in-south-korea/

51 recovered patients test positive again in South Korea
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What is the herd immunity conspiracy theory?

But about immunity...just watched the dutch experts in a live debate with the government. This was one of the topics and what they said was:
Yes you can be tested positive again...BUT you have developed antibodies. And like we discussed a few pages back, no one knows how much antibodies and if that is enough not to get the virus again and for how long you might be immune, but once you have those antibodies it is not likely the virus has the same effect on you the second contamination. Because your immune system already knows the virus and has those antibodies in place. So with re-infection herd immunity is not off the table per definition. Not bringing up the discussion if it's smart for country Y or Z...but it's not impossible because of reinfection. You might get a population that gets reinfected but its unlikely that populations will flood the hospitals because they are likely to fight the dicease theirselves easier than the first contamination.

Also, in the article itself this important sentence, making it clickbait...or sickbait in this case:

For now, the KCDC’s director-general, Jeong Eun-kyeong, believes it is likely the infection was re-activated after remaining dormant in the patients, as opposed to them being reinfected, the report said.
 
CasaNegron said:
Keep in mind the scale of the county (330M). We had about 8K deaths daily before all this, all causes.

Here the at risk population includes not only the old. Many of the lifestyle issues we had before with obesity and diabetes is coming back to haunt us. There is also a significant proportion of the population, including members of national and local government that are fundamentally opposed to the idea of limiting freedom of movement.

As a non-expert: I think we will have a rough time, but may get to end of this without big 2nd, 3rd and 4th waves of this. Currently a handfull of the larger metro areas are getting his hard.
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Its basicly a good thing to save the freedom.
But gouverment has to know in wartimes and times like these , freedom of mivement can not be guranteed.
If things run bad , the number of victims are similar to a war , so you have to do similar things. Its for a limited time and it xhould he accepted by the people.
 
Johnny Vodka said:
Hopefully more people will spend more time working from home anyway once this is over.
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I know I hope so too.. I love working from home

It was suggested to the big bosses if we can work from home and they flat refused and said no it will never work...and now they have no choice and realizes it works pretty well haha
 
stivi said:
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Pachá da por perdida la temporada turística y avisa a sus trabajadores

@Noudiari / El Grupo Pachá Ibiza ha informado a sus trabajadores del ERTE «por fuerza mayor» que ya se está tramitando debido al estado de alarma por la crisis sanitaria del Covid-19. Pero además, avisa que «una vez finalizado el estado de alarma, la empresa convocará al comité de empresa para...
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i liked the comments section below, it sais it all, that triatlantic capital partner group that ownes pacha group seems to be a fat, greedy pigglet of a investment company.
 
Browny said:
Do we think working from home will be the new normal? Personally don’t see why not if you can
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I hope it does not become the normal. Maybe half the week is fine, but being alone in your home is not supposed to be the new normal.
 
Springal said:
Big blow to herd immunity conspiracy theorists - https://nypost.com/2020/04/07/51-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-positive-again-in-south-korea/

51 recovered patients test positive again in South Korea
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Why conspiracy? Herd immunity is why childhood diseases are pretty rare in places where immunisation programmes are widespread. Of course there isn’t a vaccine yet, but the theory goes as we know is most covid positives are mild.

Interestingly in the uk the covid symptoms app has been used 1.5m times. So that suggests if even half had it that used the app and the many others that haven't used the app then we could already only a few weeks in be up to around 3-5% of the population covered. By the end of the year there’s no reason why the critical mass of 60% coverage can’t be reached.

The Korean study doesn’t really shed much light on reinfection. It does though appear that the testing sensitivity has recurring problems all over the world.
 
cunninghamali said:
I think it can and should become normal for people that are happy to work from home

Some people don't like it at all
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I can imagine some people like it. And this will probably create a new working culture where it is considered as normal. Personally I would love a midway solution 2 or 3 days from home a week.
It will take care of other problems too such as traffic jams and pollution.
 
SeoulSaint said:
Why conspiracy? Herd immunity is why childhood diseases are pretty rare in places where immunisation programmes are widespread. Of course there isn’t a vaccine yet, but the theory goes as we know is most covid positives are mild.
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In terms of conspiracy for the current situation. Many people were - in fact our our government initially used this as a strategy
 
SeoulSaint said:
Why conspiracy? Herd immunity is why childhood diseases are pretty rare in places where immunisation programmes are widespread. Of course there isn’t a vaccine yet, but the theory goes as we know is most covid positives are mild.

Interestingly in the uk the covid symptoms app has been used 1.5m times. So that suggests if even half had it that used the app and the many others that haven't used the app then we could already only a few weeks in be up to around 3-5% of the population covered. By the end of the year there’s no reason why the critical mass of 60% coverage can’t be reached.

The Korean study doesn’t really shed much light on reinfection. It does though appear that the testing sensitivity has recurring problems all over the world.
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It's a clickbait article. In the end it says it might not be reinfection after all.
 
I hope, from an environmental stand point, that homeworking is encouraged by more in roles where it has proved possible

But even those of us who have homeworked for ages understand there are times when you and your colleagues simply need to get in front of one another (under normal, non-pandemic circumstances)
 
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