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Myron Gaines said:
and if you're young and don't need it then why take the risk?
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It's not about you if you're young though is it ? It's about society as a whole because reducing how much Covid is going around will reduce the risk of it infecting those who are at risk. I don;t think many current under-40s (or even under-50s) have ever been asked to do something for the good of society as a whole rather than themselves.

There have recently been 2 major outbreaks in East Devon care homes where residents have not yet had their second dose of vaccine. The same care homes where 20% of workers had declined to get vaccinated. All it takes for one of them to catch it from shopping near an anti-vaxxer in Asda and then infect someone in the Care Home where it spreads like wild fire (as it has in both these cases despite the first vaccine dose having been widely given out). The first home lost 9 residents and the second lost one (so far) / edit :- now two as of tonight..

The idea that we can ease up to the extent everyone is banking on over the next 2 months relying on vaccinations is looking increasingly over-optimistic to be honest. They likely ought to ban foreign holidays until 3 weeks after at least 80% of the population has received both vaccinations and make vaccinations compulsory for all health care workers and carers. Everyone is looking forward to tearing off their masks, partying like it's 1999 and shouting their lungs out on the terraces by June .... if they do, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the whole thing backfire by mid-Summer.
 
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Ibizastu said:
I beg to differ, I'd imagine bar owners across Europe would give anything to have an England Football match on right now and the thousands of euros it would put in their pocket
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foreign hoolies (sorry, supporters) don't generate a lot of income, a few irish pubs at best. a lot don't even book hotels. measured also against the cost of clear up, police resources, which adds up. massive nuisance for locals. so my earlier point still stands
 
Tourist said:
foreign hoolies (sorry, supporters) don't generate a lot of income, a few irish pubs at best. a lot don't even book hotels. measured also against the cost of clear up, police resources, which adds up. massive nuisance for locals. so my earlier point still stands
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No chance. As someone who has done every major tournament since 2006 I know hotels , Air BnBs, hospitality does extremely well from it

even the grumpy french bars in 2016 were setting up temporary outside bars and takeaway beers in the small towns etc.

When Guimaraes had the nations league in 2019 they’d never seen anything like it in terms of takings
 
each to their own I guess.... certainly not the story in Spain where CL fans are in and out, contributing sweet FA

anyway I'd rather sever my limbs than go anywhere near an England event, never 'loved up' enough for my tastes...

but looks like we're detouring a bit from the thread
 
Michael1982 said:
As stated above, in most places it is very common to be turned away at the club door because e.g. you're wearing the wrong shoes. I don't hear you complaining about the fact this is taking away your freedom of footwear-choice?
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It's a little different here, because unlike the shoe requirement, the requirement for a vaccine passport will likely be enforced by a government regulation. Continuing your analogy, the government would only permit clubs to open that enforce a specific dress code. So it would indeed take freedoms away.

Nevertheless, the choice right now is between requiring vaccine passports and not opening at all, so it's a no brainer for me.
 
tclubber said:
It's a little different here, because unlike the shoe requirement, the requirement for a vaccine passport will likely be enforced by a government regulation. Continuing your analogy, the government would only permit clubs to open that enforce a specific dress code. So it would indeed take freedoms away.
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Fair point. However, only if you limit the "taking away of freedom" to the goverment. In my opinion, freedom can be taken away by anyone and it's not always about the government and its regulations.
 
Iv got my Covid jab Saturday , nearly 42 years old , apparently im getting it as they need me to farther the next super human race ......which is odd as- A) im hung like a shrimp and. B) iv been a Jaffa (seedless) for the last 6 years C) im mentally still 12yrs old on a good day......lol ....so I guesss its good news and I recon due to asthma as a kid ....still have it now but not had a attack since I was a kid :) ...Good work NHS
 
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craig79 said:
Iv got my Covid jab Saturday , nearly 42 years old , apparently im getting it as they need me to farter the next super humane race ......which is odd as- A) im hung like a shrimp and. B) iv been a Jaffa (seedless) for the last 6 years C) im metaly still 12yrs old on a good day......lol ....so I guesss its good news and I recon due to asthma as a kid ....still have it now but not had a attack since I was a kid :) ...Good work NHS
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clearly you might need the software update patch in the next dose to fix the autocorrect / spelling element that’s not quite working right 😉
 
Myron Gaines said:
I think you've missed the point. Wearing the wrong shoes has nothing to do with your own health concerns. The issue people have with the vaccines is we dont know for sure if they're safe, and if you're young and don't need it then why take the risk?
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How come these wealthy hospital/clinics owners, jump queue to get their vaccine ?

Johann Rupert received the coronavirus vaccine at a Swiss clinic his family owns before it was available to the public. Has the South-African luxury goods billionaire jumped the queue?

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Richemont Boss Vaccinated at Swiss Clinic He Owns

Johann Rupert received the coronavirus vaccine at a Swiss clinic his family owns before it was available to the public. Has the South-African luxury goods billionaire jumped the queue?
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The American Hospital of Paris, located in the exclusive neighbourhood of Neuilly-sur-Seine, had reportedly given vaccine doses to some 20 members of its board of governors and donors.

www.rfi.fr

American Hospital of Paris accused of allowing VIPs to jump vaccine queue

The American Hospital of Paris in the upscale western suburb of Neuilly has been slammed for giving Covid-19 vaccines to members of its board not considered one of the priority at-risk groups. The private…
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Meanwhile I've found out that in Cheltenham they are using surplus vaccine to prioritize police officers over teachers and will only call teachers when they've done the police. Not partisan much .... I guess that's what happens when you allow plans to be "flexed to local conditions" ....
 
kimajy said:
Meanwhile I've found out that in Cheltenham they are using surplus vaccine to prioritize police officers over teachers and will only call teachers when they've done the police. Not partisan much .... I guess that's what happens when you allow plans to be "flexed to local conditions" ....
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I don't get quite how this is happening as the daily vax numbers are around 300k per day average (including 2nd doses).

So 100k per day lower than a month ago. Still waiting for these bumper days we supposed to be having almost half way through the month 😂
 
MrHullMysterious said:
I don't get quite how this is happening as the daily vax numbers are around 300k per day average (including 2nd doses).

So 100k per day lower than a month ago. Still waiting for these bumper days we supposed to be having almost half way through the month 😂
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Yeah ... the numbers of surplus vaccines unused aren't that high each day but there are likely always going to be some leftover doses versus appointments confirmed. They have no mass vaccination centres for about 20 miles round there and the LVS are clearly making their own decisions as to who is most important in the community to vaccinate out of keyworkers who otherwise wouldn't be eligible yet. Keeping police on the streets clearly matters to them more than having teachers in the classroom !
 
kimajy said:
Yeah ... the numbers of surplus vaccines unused aren't that high each day but there are likely always going to be some leftover doses versus appointments confirmed. They have no mass vaccination centres for about 20 miles round there and the LVS are clearly making their own decisions as to who is most important in the community to vaccinate out of keyworkers who otherwise wouldn't be eligible yet. Keeping police on the streets clearly matters to them more than having teachers in the classroom !
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I suppose schools are also more of a controlled environment, kids are tested (after a fashion) etc. Police encounter randoms all the time.💁‍♂️
 
MrHullMysterious said:
I don't get quite how this is happening as the daily vax numbers are around 300k per day average (including 2nd doses).

So 100k per day lower than a month ago. Still waiting for these bumper days we supposed to be having almost half way through the month 😂
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I believe Wednesday just gone was the delivery date of the next lot so I'd expect to see some big numbers coming once they all speed it back up again.
 
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