☣ Coronavirus ☣

[CasaNegron]

I will take any sort of holiday right now, even if it means taking the little one!

Its really not that bad, I promise!!!

 

[tclubber]

4 Ibiza trips cancelled since this began, 2 more booked. I need hope!!!

At least as a vaccinated health worker, you will be one of the first people to be allowed back on Ibiza (and into clubs). Which is well deserved

 

[Hally]

Same. It is looking more and more like the July one probably won't happen, but high hopes for September...more of a hotel-based family vibe without the clubbing. I will take any sort of holiday right now, even if it means taking the little one!

I'll happily take a little fella

 

[chez]

going by the social feeds ive read over the last few days what looks to be confusing many is if the vulnerable have been heavily vaccinated at this stage and obviously a lot more down the pecking order will be in 5 months to come how is their any doubt about summer holidays.. im not nearly enough clued up on the whole different variants to get into debates but can't help but think why is it that is this up for question if they have faith in the vaccines? or are they waiting off on people to have their second jab?

 

[MrHullMysterious]

going by the social feeds ive read over the last few days what looks to be confusing many is if the vulnerable have been heavily vaccinated at this stage and obviously a lot more down the pecking order will be in 5 months to come how is their any doubt about summer holidays.. im not nearly enough clued up on the whole different variants to get into debates but can't help but think why is it that is this up for question if they have faith in the vaccines? or are they waiting off on people to have their second jab?

I think gov will be fine with holidays in-country. But they are bricking it for foreign holidays, incase peeps bring back a variant that the vaccines don't work/stop transmission for. And off we'd go again

Low prevalence/high vaccination rates everywhere (or European holiday destinations at least), would turn down the worry volume dial a lot for the above.

 

[AntonioGeordio]

going by the social feeds ive read over the last few days what looks to be confusing many is if the vulnerable have been heavily vaccinated at this stage and obviously a lot more down the pecking order will be in 5 months to come how is their any doubt about summer holidays.. im not nearly enough clued up on the whole different variants to get into debates but can't help but think why is it that is this up for question if they have faith in the vaccines? or are they waiting off on people to have their second jab?

Yeah I’m picking up on this general vibe as well mate.

On one hand we are hearing vaccines are great and it’s all working out, but then getting told not to think about booking summer holidays.

Would be great if we could have another scorcher of a UK summer like we did in 2018

 

[Ibizapaul]

I'll happily take a little fella

Haha who knows, might be able to blag myself a night on the razz if I'm good.

 

[AntonioGeordio]

Haha who knows, might be able to blag myself a night on the razz if I'm good.

Everyone is different, but my main priority this year is to try and get my little family away somewhere for some much needed fun in the sun somewhere.

We made the most of it, but I feel like we’ve had a year of memories robbed from us in 2020.

If me and my ball & chain can get away for a short break alone somewhere too it will be an absolute bonus

 

[chez]

I think gov will be fine with holidays in-country. But they are bricking it for foreign holidays, incase peeps bring back a variant that the vaccines don't work/stop transmission for. And off we'd go again

Low prevalence/high vaccination rates everywhere (or European holiday destinations at least), would turn down the worry volume dial a lot for the above.

hope so mate, I can see where the need for answers is coming from as the vast majority have sacrificed / made commitments / stuck to the rules as much as there is always a lot of noise on those who haven't, everyone I know besides a small amount have been some what saints throughout this and I guess sometimes people need that little bit back (good news) from time to time, piece of mind along the way that things are moving back in the direction of normality

 

[chez]

Yeah I’m picking up on this general vibe as well mate.

On one hand we are hearing vaccines are great and it’s all working out, but then getting told not to think about booking summer holidays.

Would be great if we could have another scorcher of a UK summer like we did in 2018

that's it pal! think sunny bank holidays in Jesmond (if people of the toon still do that)

 

[2H76]

For so long as you have to get PCR tests within 72 hours of flying and wait for a lab turnaround, last minute bookings are going to be a headache If they were same day, you could catch a 6am flight next day, do 2 days and catch a midnight flight home without having to do another one at the other end. Let's face it, who wants to build in booking and going to a clinic for a Covid test to a 3 day Ibiza weekend ?

Probably done more two-full-day stays in the past than longer ones; mainy because it's cheaper - and quicker - to jet off to Ibiza from Manchester for a short stay than somewhere like Bournemouth at home. What I'd give for two days right now...

 

[2H76]

going by the social feeds ive read over the last few days what looks to be confusing many is if the vulnerable have been heavily vaccinated at this stage and obviously a lot more down the pecking order will be in 5 months to come how is their any doubt about summer holidays.. im not nearly enough clued up on the whole different variants to get into debates but can't help but think why is it that is this up for question if they have faith in the vaccines? or are they waiting off on people to have their second jab?

Yeah; I think along the lines of "what's the point of the jabs if it gets us nowhere?". I get that we need to get a large % through their second jab which will take months, but they have separated the jabs by 3 months as the first is supposed to be effective enough.

So the vulnerable have all had their first jab and are sufficently protected (the government says so)....so why the feck are we all still inside? It's a question that will be asked.

 

[chez]

Yeah; I think along the lines of "what's the point of the jabs if it gets us nowhere?". I get that we need to get a large % through their second jab which will take months, but they have separated the jabs by 3 months as the first is supposed to be effective enough.

So the vulnerable have all had their first jab and are sufficently protected (the government says so)....so why the feck are we all still inside? It's a question that will be asked.

absolutely mate, I don't think the MPs help with what does pass their mouths.. contradictions in what they say only days apart, in that case its probably better saying nothing rather than mixed messages

 

[Lunkan]

That's gotta be quote of the year nailed!!

Along with " -You are on mute"

 

[MrHullMysterious]

Yeah; I think along the lines of "what's the point of the jabs if it gets us nowhere?". I get that we need to get a large % through their second jab which will take months, but they have separated the jabs by 3 months as the first is supposed to be effective enough.

So the vulnerable have all had their first jab and are sufficently protected (the government says so)....so why the feck are we all still inside? It's a question that will be asked.

I think what is really needed is data on Brazil and SA variants against the oxford vaccine (other vaccines too) for hospitalization and death.

- they just don't have this yet which is the problem.

If still catch it and a bit cold/flu unwell for a day or two and that's it. Then happy days! Think gov will be like, "play on"

If results in serious disease then, well, f***

I suspect will prevent severe disease but not 100%. Also think oxford could have new jab that covers the Brazil and SA changes in spike protein by end April. But are under promising. (They said end of Jan was starting work on it)

To get a tweak vaccine approved requires a hundred or so volunteers to get it. Then they measure immune response and make sure it is at right level - so pretty quick compared to first time around which was testing the whole vaccine and delivery method to be safe.

 

[AntonioGeordio]

that's it pal! think sunny bank holidays in Jesmond (if people of the toon still do that)

We can dream mate

 

[diver]

Along with " -You are on mute"

Have I missed something?

 

[kimajy]

To get a tweak vaccine approved requires a hundred or so volunteers to get it. Then they measure immune response and make sure it is at right level - so pretty quick compared to first time around which was testing the whole vaccine and delivery method to be safe.

It gets harder and harder to test vaccines properly for effectiveness as prevalence rates fall unless we can move on to deliberate exposure tests. Those are of course highly controversial in the elderly and vulnerable. With SA and Brazil variants they need to carry out tests abroad right now, and before the countries in crisis get things under control with lockdowns because otherwise we are relying on petri dish responses and that is never going to give a real-life indicator.

 

[CraigyB]

What if it looks and smells like a pandemic killing millions because the government has played you into thinking it looks like that....with science manipulating numbers and main stream media publishing those fearful messages. Cause that's what happened.

Genuinely aff yer barnet mate

 

[CraigyB]

Why would almost all the governments in the world collaborate to do that? Given the level of financial packages given out, government having to bail out major businesses and sectors of the economy ? Just for some ‘fear porn’ ?

but be so sloppy in their justifications and use of stats the average man on a clubbing forum can foil their grand plan ?

Absolute mentalists coming out with this. Bewildering.

How do we explain the increases in average deaths regardless of reason. Maybe it was all actors and actresses and the data is manipulated to keep us at home.