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NickyT said:
You might want to speak to your employer about that as a new law was introduced in the Uk due to Covid. Employees can now carry over up to 4 weeks paid holiday.
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UK linky here. Looks like plenty of get out clauses for employers though:

www.gov.uk

Holiday entitlement and pay during coronavirus (COVID-19)

An explanation of how holiday entitlement and pay operate during the pandemic, where it differs from the standard holiday entitlement and pay guidance.
www.gov.uk www.gov.uk
 
2H76 said:
Notice in the UK there are headlines *one Covid patient admitted to hospital every 30 seconds* but they don't say the rate that treated patients are being released. More scare tactics for the sake of it? No hiding that new infection numbers have plummeted this last week, and more to come this week I hope.

Then they will send the kids back to school and it all starts again....
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Around at least 1 every 90 seconds. (With deaths from covid at 1,000 per day) ?
 
MrHullMysterious said:
Around at least 1 every 90 seconds. (With deaths from covid at 1,000 per day) ?
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Those appalling stats should now start to drop, and drop significantly. Daily cases down (a) on last Mon and (b) from yesterday so it does appear the peak's over; it will take time to filter through to hospital beds and deaths, but it will. With an untrained eye - it does look like the rate of change downwards is as fast or faster than the first lockdown. Just as long as no-one up top messes around...
 
2H76 said:
Those appalling stats should now start to drop, and drop significantly. Daily cases down (a) on last Mon and (b) from yesterday so it does appear the peak's over; it will take time to filter through to hospital beds and deaths, but it will. With an untrained eye - it does look like the rate of change downwards is as fast or faster than the first lockdown. Just as long as no-one up top messes around...
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not just yet according to this.

everyone should watch it, it's interesting and clear

www.ft.com

'It's not a bad flu season' - Covid myths debunked with data

FT data journalist John Burn-Murdoch examines the coronavirus stats, and explains why the UK's Covid-19 death rate is likely to rise further
www.ft.com www.ft.com
 
Infections are falling faster simply because schools are shut this time.

I think there is another week before hospital admissions plateau and start dropping. Another 10-14 days after that before deaths start to fall. So mid feb ish then?
 
... and this is the reality in parts of UK already a week after lockdown came in (like where I live). Look at that rate of 38.9 per 100,000 now - never got above about 160 even in the peak of pre- and post-Christmas.

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mr_why said:
I know deaths are still worryingly high, but 640,000 Jabs have been given over the last 48 hours in the U.K. And the big centres have yet to open! These numbers are insane! I mean we really might be free sooner than we think.
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I remain hopeful! We are in Scotland so in tier 3 can have 20 people with a dinner, so I’m hoping for that at minimum. Then hopefully jet2 will fly me to the isle ?
 
djedwardsmith said:
That would be amazing if true - although not in the UK's case given we're all on the Astra Zeneca pathway :D
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There is nothing to say AZ can’t achieve the same results. The vaccines approved to date are all based on a similar formula. Hopefully Moderna is successful too. In fact, if we all want to travel abroad anytime soonish we have to hope they all achieve a similar outcome.
 
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And the potentially good news keeps coming. This is the U.K. government vaccine lead suggesting that the latest lockdown could start to be eased at the start of March, the beginning of the end of the hardline restrictions. Good for the U.K. but equally good for the world as it shows a roadmap for everyone out of this. It would certainly be earlier than I anticipated and the risk would still be there for those of us approaching 50 and 60 but it’s the light at the end of the tunnel that we have all been hoping for.

www.bbc.co.uk

Restrictions eased once 'top 4 cohorts' protected

Vaccine Minister Nadhim Zahawi says there are still "a number of caveats" to reopening.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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I had a thought last night. Could out of work ex intravenous drug users be employed to administer the vaccine?
They’ve got the skills, surely?
 
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I was just telling my significant other, we've become totally apathetic.

This is such a massive tragedy... Because not only can people not breathe, they're dead. Really dead. And there are over 2 million dead - literally a fragment of the population, but an unacceptable loss. We must take time out and pay our respects. They didn't deserve to die, and I can only speak for myself so I have to say I've become too willing to accept it as "part of life".

I wish for everything that we could just put this all behind us and move on with life like everyone, but it's time for me to explore something more serious. I can't believe that this many people are dying, and I'm just grateful to every nurse and doctor who holds a mask over some poor soul's nose and mouth so they can process sacred oxygen...


It's beyond unfortunate that it's gone this far, and I am glad there's a vaccine and just hope that its distribution can find an equal, measured, and unilateral distribution - not the lopsided rich-first one that has recently graced the front page.

Hoping for Africa , or any impoverished country to receive the help they so dearly need, and of course waiting my turn to also get the vaccine.
 
soulcompromise said:
Hoping for Africa , or any impoverished country to receive the help they so dearly need, and of course waiting my turn to also get the vaccine.
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Africa has a much younger population (plus people spend a lot more time outdoors), so they are unlikely to have a high death toll.

"My country first" is a much better approach when it comes to ordering the vaccine (see Israel/UK/USA vs. EU vaccination rates). Attempts to ensure an equal vaccine distribution don't even work well inside the EU - the end result is (so far) that there was not enough vaccine ordered (and the orders came way too late). Humans are tricky animals - they usually produce better results when in competition, not in cooperation.
 
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