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Our lock down is lifted a bit today for non essential shops, barbers and hairdressers , ect. We can travel anywhere in the county and not just 5k limit. I predict chaos scenes at JD sports and the like.. we're going into town 10k away just checking to visit someone who built a brilliant roof terrace on his folks house...?
 
Digital2013 said:
Kier Starmer has confirmed Labour will abstain in the vote. Correct decision, now isn't the time to create chaos by having the Government lose a crucial vote.

I do think this period of goodwill is coming to an end though, further votes in the new year will be opposed I reckon.
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People have had enough . Lossing jobs ,homes and lifestyle choice . People did the right thing back in April for months and months ,still no change .Lockdowns do not work and the power house people do what they want , drive to test eyes , run to the second home in France or Devon .
Meanwhile I cannot go to simple wedding in Talamanca .
 
bluesky10 said:
People have had enough . Lossing jobs ,homes and lifestyle choice . People did the right thing back in April for months and months ,still no change .Lockdowns do not work and the power house people do what they want , drive to test eyes , run to the second home in France or Devon .
Meanwhile I cannot go to simple wedding in Talamanca .
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Wait til the big Depression arrives, economic and mental.
 
diver said:
Dont wish to disappoint, but in T2 you can only order drinks in a pub/restaurant/bar when you are ordering a "substantial meal"
When you have finished that meal you cant order just drinks.
So here's my plan for the weekend trip out for my birthday

Aperitif - Anis/Pernod
Pre Pre Dinner drink - Double Gin Tonic
Pre Dinner Drink - 330ml Bottle decent lager
Starter - White Wine 1/2 bottle
Mains - Red Wine 1/2 bottle
Desert - Desert wine
Digestif - Double malt
Coffee - Liquer with cream (any spirit as won't be arsed at this stage)
Small Milk Tart snifter with final bill
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BiB - Alcoholic drinks. You shouldn't need a meal if you simply want a softie or coffee.
 
diver said:
Mate, I couldn't agree more. Its bollocks
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Yup, the first minute we go into T2 I'll test it out, go for a walk and if I'm denied a tea/biscuit in a pub I'll be on to the local rags (unless it's specific pub rules as I've alluded to - they may just want to sell food for the profit). But why would a pub NOT want to sell a coke when the profit is something like 3 -500%? (can of coke from Adsa, in bulk = what, 40p? £1.20 in a bar at best).
*Add Ice and lemon = substantial meal, put a drop of voddy in it there, bud. I'll eat the straw if I have to.
 
2H76 said:
BiB - Alcoholic drinks. You shouldn't need a meal if you simply want a softie or coffee.
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What they must think is that you, Alan, Jeff, Mary, Ken and Sheila are all going to hug each other at the quiz night.
In actual fact, some would do. But we get treated as if we're all doing it. We've all had those emails at work sent to 100 people just because one person did it [anything mildly naughty pre-covid i mean].
 
2H76 said:
Yup, the first minute we go into T2 I'll test it out, go for a walk and if I'm denied a tea/biscuit in a pub I'll be on to the local rags (unless it's specific pub rules as I've alluded to - they may just want to sell food for the profit). But why would a pub NOT want to sell a coke when the profit is something like 3 -500%? (can of coke from Adsa, in bulk = what, 40p? £1.20 in a bar at best).
*Add Ice and lemon = substantial meal, put a drop of voddy in it there, bud. I'll eat the straw if I have to.
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Our local bar (and it is a bar) is not opening after this lockdown. As I said before, we are in T2 and they have said its just not worth it. They only have a small kitchen, but the best selection of Cocktails and Beers this side of the Manny Ship Canal.
 
I think the problem is that, other than hardened drinkers with a big tolerance, many people out for (just) a drink lose inhibition and self control, and that has a direct bearing on adherence to social distancing (or any sort of social responsibility such as not littering etc).. You don't need a scientific study to show it, just look outside any pub or bar in any town centre. Since rationing drinks doesn't work (people just go on to the next bar) it's easier just to restrict alcohol to sit down meals in this way. They actually ought to have restricted the amount of alcohol served with a meal too imho if they were serious but hey, this is a government all about being seen to do something.

I can't see them restricting soft drinks and that's not what I understood the rules said. It's just that pubs have decided people won't bother to turn up and drink in a 'dry' pub so it's not worth them opening at all.
 
kimajy said:
I think the problem is that, other than hardened drinkers with a big tolerance, many people out for (just) a drink lose inhibition and self control, and that has a direct bearing on adherence to social distancing (or any sort of social responsibility such as not littering etc).. You don't need a scientific study to show it, just look outside any pub or bar in any town centre. Since rationing drinks doesn't work (people just go on to the next bar) it's easier just to restrict alcohol to sit down meals in this way. They actually ought to have restricted the amount of alcohol served with a meal too imho if they were serious but hey, this is a government all about being seen to do something.

I can't see them restricting soft drinks and that's not what I understood the rules said. It's just that pubs have decided people won't bother to turn up and drink in a 'dry' pub so it's not worth them opening at all.
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Round these parts there are pubs in the countryside which are more like social centres, the only place to get a sit-down coffee, some even double up as local shops/post offices etc. My local has a free ATM which people pop in to just to use.

They are closed as non-essential, but it would be barmy if you are out on a walk, the place is open again but you can't sit inside warming up with a brew.

That aside, one of my fave pubs in town when we were in T3 before had a deal with the Greek take-away opposite that you could go in the pub (Man & Sythe) and ring the take-away and they would bring your food when prepared. So you could have an alcoholic drink waiting for the food to arrive, just like you would with the pub's kitchen.

We were all just getting into the hang of it when the full lockdown arrived.
 
2H76 said:
Round these parts there are pubs in the countryside which are more like social centres, the only place to get a sit-down coffee, some even double up as local shops/post offices etc. My local has a free ATM which people pop in to just to use.

They are closed as non-essential, but it would be barmy if you are out on a walk, the place is open again but you can't sit inside warming up with a brew.

That aside, one of my fave pubs in town when we were in T3 before had a deal with the Greek take-away opposite that you could go in the pub (Man & Sythe) and ring the take-away and they would bring your food when prepared. So you could have an alcoholic drink waiting for the food to arrive, just like you would with the pub's kitchen.

We were all just getting into the hang of it when the full lockdown arrived.
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Can't blame people for finding creative ways to deliver the same effective outcome as their competitor with a kitchen. It's blowing the whistle of "all change" every 5 minutes that's going to be the end of things for all but the very determined.


diver said:
What they must think is that you, Alan, Jeff, Mary, Ken and Sheila are all going to hug each other at the quiz night.
In actual fact, some would do. But we get treated as if we're all doing it. We've all had those emails at work sent to 100 people just because one person did it [anything mildly naughty pre-covid i mean].
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It's because of the "some would do" factor that the Spanish closed their beaches etc. to everyone during the first lockdown. The worst behaved set the rules for all approach. What never seems to happen in European societies though is the rational response of community pressure on those "some" to comply in order to avoid draconian restriction in the first place, instead of collective resentment of the rulemakers, regardless of what's at stake, leading to everybody losing as even tougher restrictions come into play. Just as we're not allowed to gang up on Gladys having her 12th kid to yet another man despite the fact that society is having to pick up the pieces of bringing up the first 11, etc. etc. because social responsibility is always trumped by peoples' "rights" to behave completely irresponsibly in the general societal mindset !
 
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