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stivi
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MrHullMysterious
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I can understand why people might be hesitant, but these new vaccines I feel will be safer than "old style" ones we are used to.
Old style ones use a deactivated or otherwise crippled copies of the virus, and that is what the body immune system responds to when its injected into muscle cells in your arm.
These new ones (or at least the first few that have announced results) just take the bit for the protein spike. That in the muscle cells produces those spikes, and that's it. Those spikes are incapable of causing disease or replicating outside the muscle cells that where injected.
Think of it like a egg, old style ones boil the egg and use all of it. The new style ones empty the egg and just use the shell. (Runs away from analogy police ?)
Old style ones use a deactivated or otherwise crippled copies of the virus, and that is what the body immune system responds to when its injected into muscle cells in your arm.
These new ones (or at least the first few that have announced results) just take the bit for the protein spike. That in the muscle cells produces those spikes, and that's it. Those spikes are incapable of causing disease or replicating outside the muscle cells that where injected.
Think of it like a egg, old style ones boil the egg and use all of it. The new style ones empty the egg and just use the shell. (Runs away from analogy police ?)
stivi
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how you feeling today?
eclipse15
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DelMarSunset
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On the Clockwork Orange FB page there are hundreds of people who have been screaming about the lockdown and mask wearing along with the usual conspiracy theory drivel.
Since the mention of a vaccine there are now hundreds of the same people saying they won't take it as it's unsafe and a way to control everyone.
This is a FB group made up of people in their 30's 40's and 50's who chucked all sorts of powders and potions into their bodies for a lot of the 90's and 00's but are now dead against the very thing that could fix this shit show. Make up your f***ing minds!!!!!!
Also every week there are dozens of posts from people looking for "contacts" to get stuff in whatever part of the country they happen to have run out of their own gear
You don't want to take a vaccine because you think it's unsafe? Fine.
Maybe don't ask if a stranger can sort you out some Charlie at 2am near Romford cos your usual guy has his mobile off
MrHullMysterious
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This has shown how prone to mental illnesses humanity is, like OCD there are plenty of people who are completely sceptical of gov info (little bit of paranoia is healthy though imho), but completely happy to go 100% with random post on internet from guy who heard voices telling him it's all a conspiracy, cause they want to believe?
WAKE UP SHEEPLE, DO YOUR RESEARCH!!! ?
On a side note, the bullshit about vaccines containing microchips for mind control nonsense. If you *actually* do the research you'd find the truth.
Simply put in 3rd world countries health systems are pretty sketchy as is record keeping. So while some vaccines leave a scar like the smallpox one, most don't. As such they thought of diff ways to track if you've had a vaccine. One was a small tattoo on your arm, but was thought a bit too nazi holocaust connotations. The other idea was a small rdfi chip (like put in pets) with vaccine batch info etc which could be scanned.
But then people decided to use that as OMG MICROCHIPS TO CONTROL YOU, WAKEUP SHEEPLE! so as to increase subscribers to their channels which just so happen to have advertising revenue ?
In the end the rfdi chip idea never got off the ground either.
If "they" had figured out the computer human interface biotech, we wouldn't even be having these convos, and maybe the worlds IQ might have gone up a point or two ?
WAKE UP SHEEPLE, DO YOUR RESEARCH!!! ?
On a side note, the bullshit about vaccines containing microchips for mind control nonsense. If you *actually* do the research you'd find the truth.
Simply put in 3rd world countries health systems are pretty sketchy as is record keeping. So while some vaccines leave a scar like the smallpox one, most don't. As such they thought of diff ways to track if you've had a vaccine. One was a small tattoo on your arm, but was thought a bit too nazi holocaust connotations. The other idea was a small rdfi chip (like put in pets) with vaccine batch info etc which could be scanned.
But then people decided to use that as OMG MICROCHIPS TO CONTROL YOU, WAKEUP SHEEPLE! so as to increase subscribers to their channels which just so happen to have advertising revenue ?
In the end the rfdi chip idea never got off the ground either.
If "they" had figured out the computer human interface biotech, we wouldn't even be having these convos, and maybe the worlds IQ might have gone up a point or two ?
Crawleytown
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Stick whatever in my arm, anything is better than this life we’re living now! people that will refuse are just selfish imo, shouldn’t be able to reap the benefits of herd immunity without being willing to take a little bit of the risk burden yourself.
the thing about people who regularly take ecstasy pills and other drugs they’ve brought off a stranger but won’t take an approved medical vaccine is absolutely comical, reminds me of the kind of folks who get on their high horse about only buying fairtrade/organic/vegan but are quite happy to shove one of the most unethically sourced, least environmentally friendly products known to man up their nose every weekend.
the thing about people who regularly take ecstasy pills and other drugs they’ve brought off a stranger but won’t take an approved medical vaccine is absolutely comical, reminds me of the kind of folks who get on their high horse about only buying fairtrade/organic/vegan but are quite happy to shove one of the most unethically sourced, least environmentally friendly products known to man up their nose every weekend.
eclipse15
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If it were a thing, mind control microchips would be very cool tech! However, as I can't even cancel a standing order on my online banking and have to wait in a phone queue for an hour to do so, it doesn't feel particularly likely!
Hally
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Really good, biggest issue now is making myself rest. Not made for sitting around
Hally
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I'm on the CO group and cant read it as get so pissed off. Meant to be based around love for everyone but when it comes down to it going out and partying trumps old people lives. People need to grow the f*** upOn the Clockwork Orange FB page there are hundreds of people who have been screaming about the lockdown and mask wearing along with the usual conspiracy theory drivel.
Since the mention of a vaccine there are now hundreds of the same people saying they won't take it as it's unsafe and a way to control everyone.
This is a FB group made up of people in their 30's 40's and 50's who chucked all sorts of powders and potions into their bodies for a lot of the 90's and 00's but are now dead against the very thing that could fix this shit show. Make up your f***ing minds!!!!!!
Also every week there are dozens of posts from people looking for "contacts" to get stuff in whatever part of the country they happen to have run out of their own gear
You don't want to take a vaccine because you think it's unsafe? Fine.
Maybe don't ask if a stranger can sort you out some Charlie at 2am near Romford cos your usual guy has his mobile off
Hally
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I'm now of the opinion people are just a bit thick
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stivi
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glad to hear! you probably know better than anyone that you should still take it easy for a while
eclipse15
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Time to crack out the sudoku
craig72
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Don't they test vaccines in third world countries.? Leaving people with more problems than they had.. girls being left infertile..ect
MrHullMysterious
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As part of trials yeah. Like the ones who've announced, they trailed with peeps all around the world.
There where claims an infertility drug was been given to people in Kenya instead of tetanus jab they thought they where getting. Been debunked afaik
ANALYSIS: Why does an old, false claim about tetanus vaccine safety refuse to die?
An old rumour that a tetanus vaccine causing infertility in women is resurfacing, this time in West Africa. Vinayak Bhardwaj explains - as many others have over the last 20 years - why this claim is false and why it’s important to keep debunking it.
freakstar
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here’s the answer:
China has promised millions of coronavirus vaccines to countries around the world. And it is ready to deliver them
Inside a gray warehouse at the Shenzhen International Airport in southern China, a row of white chambers sits in a cordoned-off corner, each fitted with a display screen showing the customized temperature inside.
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