stivi
Well-Known Member
copied over from the 'clubs opening after the pandemic' thread...
about two weeks ago or so I shared some stats from switzerland (like, the official swiss health care system) where they had said that the nightlife had been the main cause for new infection. a week after that they backtracked and actually had to admit they'd been wrong when putting up the numbers and that it wasn't the main reason for new infections at all - in switzerland this stirred up a big stir and the health care department had to openly apologize to the nightlife industry.
here in spain, two days ago, the official health care guys admitted that the nightlife isn't actually the main infection point. the only reason as to why they are banning it is because it's so hard to trace contacts. because of the pure nature of clubbing with dancefloors (which had been allowed in some parts of spain but never here on the balearics), if you do have one case it would mean you'd have to trace the entire crowd of that night - it's what they do in switzerland if a case comes up. here in spain, they don't seem willing to go this far. here the tracing works in a way that an infected person would simply indicate who he/she's been together with in the past few days and the tracers test those and it seems like they aren't willing to trace&test an entire venue if a case comes up. this to me is just lame and it could actually be done well (as it's done in switzerland now).
my bottom line is: both the swiss as well as the spanish autorities have independently confirmed that the main place/situation where people are getting infected are private gatherings at home. not in restaurants, not at socially distanced public events. but at family parties/BBQs at home, where no one would ever consider keeping the safety distance and less so wearing a mask. the numbers are clear. here in spain, the percentage of asymptomatic cases is so high and everyone is doing stuff with their nearest and dearest...and as you don't know you're a carrier, you just don't worry.
about two weeks ago or so I shared some stats from switzerland (like, the official swiss health care system) where they had said that the nightlife had been the main cause for new infection. a week after that they backtracked and actually had to admit they'd been wrong when putting up the numbers and that it wasn't the main reason for new infections at all - in switzerland this stirred up a big stir and the health care department had to openly apologize to the nightlife industry.
here in spain, two days ago, the official health care guys admitted that the nightlife isn't actually the main infection point. the only reason as to why they are banning it is because it's so hard to trace contacts. because of the pure nature of clubbing with dancefloors (which had been allowed in some parts of spain but never here on the balearics), if you do have one case it would mean you'd have to trace the entire crowd of that night - it's what they do in switzerland if a case comes up. here in spain, they don't seem willing to go this far. here the tracing works in a way that an infected person would simply indicate who he/she's been together with in the past few days and the tracers test those and it seems like they aren't willing to trace&test an entire venue if a case comes up. this to me is just lame and it could actually be done well (as it's done in switzerland now).
my bottom line is: both the swiss as well as the spanish autorities have independently confirmed that the main place/situation where people are getting infected are private gatherings at home. not in restaurants, not at socially distanced public events. but at family parties/BBQs at home, where no one would ever consider keeping the safety distance and less so wearing a mask. the numbers are clear. here in spain, the percentage of asymptomatic cases is so high and everyone is doing stuff with their nearest and dearest...and as you don't know you're a carrier, you just don't worry.
Was just checking Formentera maybe for October... It's over 
