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Nostalgic said:
You'll have to make do with your drive or garden Jimmy Krankie ain't letting you go anywhere :p
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Thankfully I have a decent garden (and developments I can do it)... plus lots of unread books... and mushrooms. So I have a reasonable plan B. And we can carry more annual leave than usual into next year (assuming next year is going to feel any more normal!).
 
Nostalgic said:
If booked before the lockdowns happened would we be able to claim back through the credit card protection act?

Aer Lingus have offered me a voucher to use within the next 5 years moneys back +10%. Going to use it for next years Euros (fingers crossed)

I've got Munich booked for end of August still hoping to travel there.
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I doubt it - what can you claim back against? If a flight is cancelled or similar then yes - but just because you've changed your mind or because you're going to have to self-isolate during your holiday I don't think the credit card company will back you. S75 basically gives the company a chance to respond to your claim and if the flight isn't cancelled or something I can't see the credit card company persevering it further.
 
Johnny Vodka said:
Can't remember if anyone else (or even myself) has asked this, but what if you travel, contract the virus abroad, and aren't allowed to travel home? (Ryanair have said they will potentially do temperature checks.) I can't imagine insurance companies wanting to cover this sort of scenario, or the cost of healthcare abroad.
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Can paracetamol temporarily hold down your temperature?
 
Johnny Vodka said:
So you're possibly infectious and get on a flight...
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yeah but it's the same situation as if you take a bus in your town or go to the supermarket. there is no 'zero risk' possibility really unless you basically stay home, avoid all public transport and don't even hit supermarkets.

to the meds here - if everyone in a plane wears ffp2 or ffp3 masks, how would you rate the risk? I know they aren't ideal for certain groups since breathing isn't easy etc. but I'm genuinely curious.
 
stivi said:
yeah but it's the same situation as if you take a bus in your town or go to the supermarket. there is no 'zero risk' possibility really unless you basically stay home, avoid all public transport and don't even hit supermarkets.

to the meds here - if everyone in a plane wears ffp2 or ffp3 masks, how would you rate the risk? I know they aren't ideal for certain groups since breathing isn't easy etc. but I'm genuinely curious.
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Problem is - Brits are discouraged from buying FFP masks - to preserve stock for healthworkers and those that actually need them
 
stivi said:
to the meds here - if everyone in a plane wears ffp2 or ffp3 masks, how would you rate the risk? I know they aren't ideal for certain groups since breathing isn't easy etc. but I'm genuinely curious.
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Despite what everyone thinks...most modern airplanes are actually pretty safe in terms of air circulation and so-called HEPA filters that are also used in the sterile rooms in hospitals. If you combine that with masks, the risk is pretty low.
 
ElrowLovers said:
Despite what everyone thinks...most modern airplanes are actually pretty safe in terms of air circulation and so-called HEPA filters that are also used in the sterile rooms in hospitals. If you combine that with masks, the risk is pretty low.
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for once I actually agree with you.

my thinking is this: let's take you as an example (netherlands) and you wanna come to ibiza (spain). if both countries (or more specific areas such as ibiza and maybe amsterdam) have a pretty safe situation again - I think something we might achieve come june or july - and if everyone would wear one of those masks on the plane, I genuinely don't see it a much bigger risk than taking a bus in your town or going to the supermarket. but I might be wrong in my assumption and that's why I'd be curious to hear some of the specialists' opinons on this.
 
Johnny Vodka said:
So you're possibly infectious and get on a flight...
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I'm infectious wherever I am...
As alluded to above, trains, buses, planes, makes little difference except planes might be the safest places due to filtration. And, of course, I'm not poorly on setting out...
 
ElrowLovers said:
Despite what everyone thinks...most modern airplanes are actually pretty safe in terms of air circulation and so-called HEPA filters that are also used in the sterile rooms in hospitals. If you combine that with masks, the risk is pretty low.
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Erm but the blowers above your head blow into the cabin, and around people. The filters are not between people are they? Sure they'll reduce viral load in circulation, but risk is a function of not just proximity but duration.

I'd be concerned about sat for 3+ hours in an enclosed space. People will remove masks even if it's just to drink etc. Also it's not just in the plane, but airport, your transfers etc.

Also just seen on BBC that latest excess deaths figures from ONS is around an extra 50k deaths ?
 
Neighbour opposite me (over the road) someone in her house has the virus, can see people in there with a white jump suit and face mask

Not surprised she always had randoms in her house, everytime they used to clap for workers there used to be about 5 people on her balcony and always different people

Crazy seeing that
 
Springal said:
Problem is - Brits are discouraged from buying FFP masks - to preserve stock for healthworkers and those that actually need them
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If you can even find them anywhere to buy. Amazon have them listed as prioritised for uk gov.

Managed to get 20 disposable surgical masks for asda today. Turns out was no queue and about a dozen people inside, so I didn't bother. (Less likely to touch face etc without)
 
MrHullMysterious said:
If you can even find them anywhere to buy. Amazon have them listed as prioritised for uk gov.

Managed to get 20 disposable surgical masks for asda today. Turns out was no queue and about a dozen people inside, so I didn't bother. (Less likely to touch face etc without)
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we had a similar situation in spain a month ago. it's much better now. all western countries were late. late in reacting, late in doing lockdown and since western countries have no habit of wearing facemasks, they first had to be ordered in massive numbers (or starting to be produced in the country now).
 
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