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Nostalgic said:
So what would you of done?
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I think it’s important to start by acknowledging that it shouldn’t have come to this. The world was caught woefully unprepared for this. Southeast Asia has more recent experience with infectious disease control and it’s no surprise they have fared much better than the west.

We should have had magnitudes more testing available, plans for contact tracing, and plans for isolation. Use of masks in public, work at home for those who can, and disinfection of public spaces should have been mandatory immediately.

We are on lockdown because we failed to take the small steps until it was too late. Once you are on lockdown, the stricter you apply it the faster you get out of it. I honestly don’t know if a stricter but shorter lockdown is preferable to a looser but longer one to most people - but I’d choose the shorter one. I’m going on 2 full months and the ability to order takeout really isn’t preventing me from starting to crack.
 
Johnny Vodka said:
I'm not convinced supermarkets are the riskiest places to work or be. Staff are generally quite distanced anyway, in huge buildings. Contact with any customer is brief and not really that close. Does that mean it's safe to crowd people into smaller offices or public transport?
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I dunno man, there's been a few grocery store workers in Canada (Toronto area) that have been infected.
 
Am I right in thinking that if our flights are running and the hotel is open, then the travel company doesn’t need to offer refunds, even if you need to have 14 days isolation when you get there. That is the problem we are going to have if Spain is still in state of emergency when we are due to go.
 
ryansheff said:
Am I right in thinking that if our flights are running and the hotel is open, then the travel company doesn’t need to offer refunds, even if you need to have 14 days isolation when you get there. That is the problem we are going to have if Spain is still in state of emergency when we are due to go.
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You can bet you wouldn't get your money back from Ryanair (for example). This is why some sort of half open isn't good for those of us that have booked flights already. If a country has 14 days quarantine for arrivals, you might as well just ban travel altogether.
 
ryansheff said:
Am I right in thinking that if our flights are running and the hotel is open, then the travel company doesn’t need to offer refunds, even if you need to have 14 days isolation when you get there. That is the problem we are going to have if Spain is still in state of emergency when we are due to go.
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if spain is still in state of emergency, you won't be able to travel. I can't see them opening up towards incoming tourism as long as the state of emergency is active. IMO that would make absolutely no sense.

EDIT: unless maybe if you have a house or relatives in spain. but if you are a 'normal tourist', I can't see it happening.
 
Sounds horrible TBH. Can't see me booking any more flights until things are way closer to normal.

www.theguardian.com

Worldwide Covid-19 deaths pass 290,000 – as it happened

Spain to quarantine overseas travellers; Trump walks out of press conference; White House staff ordered to wear masks. This blog is now closed
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Passengers travelling with Ryanair will have to ask permission to use the toilet under new rules laid out by the airline, as it prepares to restart 40% of flights in July in the hope that government restrictions on travel in Europe will be lifted.

Europe’s biggest budget carrier published a return to flying video that advises passengers to check their temperature before going to the airport, check in online and download their boarding pass to their smartphone.

Travellers will undergo further temperature tests at the airport, must wear face masks or other coverings and wash their hands and use hand sanitiser in terminals.

On board the aircraft, they will be able to buy pre-packaged snacks and drinks, using cashless payments only.

Queuing for toilets will be prohibited on board, although individual passengers will be able to use the facilities “upon request”.

Physical distancing at airports and onboard will be encouraged where possible.

The measures include fewer checked bags and a deep clean of the aircraft every night with chemicals that are effective for more than 24 hours. All Ryanair planes are fitted with Hepa air filters similar to those used in critical hospital wards, the airline says.
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Most Airlines will now have a get out clause that even if borders open - but there is an imposed 14 day quarantine - you'll still have to travel or give up your flight / hotel with no refund.
 
Springal said:
Most Airlines will now have a get out clause that even if borders open - but there is an imposed 14 day quarantine - you'll still have to travel or give up your flight / hotel with no refund.
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If booked before the lockdowns happened would we be able to claim back through the credit card protection act?

Aer Lingus have offered me a voucher to use within the next 5 years moneys back +10%. Going to use it for next years Euros (fingers crossed)

I've got Munich booked for end of August still hoping to travel there.
 
ryansheff said:
Am I right in thinking that if our flights are running and the hotel is open, then the travel company doesn’t need to offer refunds, even if you need to have 14 days isolation when you get there. That is the problem we are going to have if Spain is still in state of emergency when we are due to go.
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If you are from the UK and the government (government...yeah right) advises not to travel, your insurance should cover it. It probably won't, but it should.
 
Can't remember if anyone else (or even myself) has asked this, but what if you travel, contract the virus abroad, and aren't allowed to travel home? (Ryanair have said they will potentially do temperature checks.) I can't imagine insurance companies wanting to cover this sort of scenario, or the cost of healthcare abroad.
 
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