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MrHullMysterious said:
Sometimes I despair and feel like we need to do a format C: on the world. Or at least do a firmware update, as obviously some people have a dodgy version ?

Was an interesting interview on bbc today with a guy who was in hospital and recovered. Quite sobering really.
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aha your not wrong there mate? some folk definitely need a reboot
 
SeoulSaint said:
Very encouraging Spanish news, although I guess the Easter weekend might have meant more underreporting, with revised data to follow??

The question we all have though is what happens when we see a real decline across Europe and lockdowns ease. Will that just lead to a second wave? Particularly the vulnerable groups, will they have to be isolated until their’s a vaccine? A close mate of mine have cystic fibrosis, and he can’t go out let alone go on holiday. Will he have to really stay in doors until a vaccine is released? Doesn’t bear thinking about. All rhetorical musings and of course no one knows.
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Yes thats what I am worried about with my dad and mum, that have underlying issues, when lockdowns do ease I think it will be hard not to have a second wave without the vaccine, would be better to keep the vulnerable on lockdown for a long time especially since eventually 80% of the population are expecting to have the virus
 
cunninghamali said:
Yes thats what I am worried about with my dad and mum, that have underlying issues, when lockdowns do ease I think it will be hard not to have a second wave without the vaccine, would be better to keep the vulnerable on lockdown for a long time especially since eventually 80% of the population are expecting to have the virus
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yeah I think it'll be inevitable to keep being extra careful with the elderly until a vaccine/cure is available.
 
It's really hard to know how people immune systems are going to react to it. Or over react which is causing a lot of the problems.

Genetics, environmental and what diseases you've been exposed to over your lifetime.

Apparently the coronavirus has a way of hiding from the normal house keeping part of the immune system that sweeps up stuff that shouldn't be in a cell via hiding in 'pockets' or wearing 'hats' so looks like normal valid RNA in the cell.

But once the cell death becomes large enough, it triggers the riot police immune response. But this in turn causes more cell death and in some people goes into a positive feedback loop.

It is Russian roulette ?
 
MrHullMysterious said:
It's really hard to know how people immune systems are going to react to it. Or over react which is causing a lot of the problems.

Genetics, environmental and what diseases you've been exposed to over your lifetime.

Apparently the coronavirus has a way of hiding fromy

But once the cell death becomes large enough, it triggers the riot police immune response. But this in turn causes more cell death and in some people goes into a positive feedback loop.

It is Russian roulette ?
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So true!! its really scary...no one knows how they will be once they have the virus, could be mild or be really bad
 
james said:
1. the widespread testing in gangelt in germany, showing that about 15% of the total population have or have had the virus.
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The area where Gangelt lies was one of the first virus hot spots in Germany, so the percentage of those who had the virus there must be higher than in the rest of Germany. So it does not say a lot about the total population.

Plus there are questions being raised about the test method used - it's unclear whether it would only react to covid-19 antibodies, or to antibodies to coronaviruses in general (there are other, less harmful varieties of those, causing viral respiratory infections).
 
Buckley said:
I think the third interesting thing is the rise of regular internet live communication and performance. I wasn't one for Facetime before all this, but our mates' weekly Zoom quiz and some of the DJ's videostreaming live sets have been great. Despite missing my kids terribly, my parents haven't been keen to embrace calling this way - not sure how typical that is.

You have to wonder whether the logistics of live performance, particularly live touring, are too risky and expensive to ever recover. The Ibiza season is probably a outlier, in its concentration of 'gigs' in the season and the permanent/semi-permanent infrastructure of clubs etc, but you'd have to consider whether huge global DJs will travel internationally night after night as they recently have. Also, what will perception of risk do to demographics? Will clubs have to pander to a younger, less cash-rich market, their lesser susceptibility to the worst effects meaning behaviour returns to the norm quicker?

On 2, in the UK, I think Johnson's willful self-lauded failure to follow even basic healthcare advice to individuals, followed by his hospitalisation, is indicative of our politicians mix of ineptitude and self-interest. Some reporting of his recovery as a good news story to lead ahead of the huge daily death toll, similar the the one the same media reported as a modern tragedy in Italy a couple of weeks ago, signals the post-truth world we live in.
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^some good points there. if I was still emotionally invested in dance music I'd be pretty worried right now. luckily I'm not. one of the few perks of reaching my mid-40s? (maybe)

on the flipside, maybe this is exactly what clubbing needs, a kick up the rear and a return to the grassroots? maybe things will become more localised again - cash-strapped promoters pushing local kids and not importing stars. who knows maybe IBZ might become more about the event than the names? would certainly be harder to justify such pricey entry/drinks...

re Boris, hopef Starmer will test him a bit... he's got away with daylight robbery for far too long
 
jimmiz said:
The German Healthcare system is a thousand times better than the Spanish, the French or the Italian.
You're more serious about social distancing, here, with a strict law it's already hard to push a lot of people to respect it ?
I think here in France, easing the lockdown for the moment would be a total nightmare for our already collapsed hospitals.
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Paris. Yesterday:mad:

 
cunninghamali said:
londonlovesbusiness.com

Holiday makers warned EU borders closed until the end of the year over pandemic - London Business News | Londonlovesbusiness.com

UK have been warned that they will be going no where this year for a holiday in the EU as leader will keep their borders closed until the end of the year.
londonlovesbusiness.com londonlovesbusiness.com
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www.euroweeklynews.com

Spain lives in hope for future holidaymakers as workers return to the beaches on the Costa del Sol & Costa Blanca to prepare

Whilst Spain’s beaches have remained closed and the vast majority of holidaymakers returning to their home nations leaving them bare to the elements, non essential workers have returned to prepare…
www.euroweeklynews.com www.euroweeklynews.com

Someone might want to tell these guys that? lots of mixed reviews on the net (as to be expected) realistically it's not looking great
 
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