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Nostalgic
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Thank you. Someone who gets it.
If the EU didn't laugh off Camerons attempt to reform then this wouldn't happen.
They are doing the same with the negotiations with a referendum they caused.
Nostalgic
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How an town full of industry has been over run with eastern europeans, fast food joints, all thanks to the deputy labour tom watson letting it go shit.
But you wouldn't know that would you.
You'll either be offended or playing the race card.
spinksy123
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The UK is a major trading lane for a lot of EU countries. They really do need to strike a deal as well. Unfortunately the EU is in just a difficult position. Give the UK too much and it may wet the appetite for other countries to leave.
Nostalgic
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No. Pig ignorant is going to live in a country, not too work, get benefits, speak their native tongue without any effort to learn the language of the country they live in
That is ignorant. And only a tiny fraction of immigrants fall into that category. Far less than British-born, native speakers! Most immigrants i meet speak better English than a lot of Brits I know.
Nostalgic
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Thats f*** all to do with it to be honest.
Go to wales walk in a shop, they start speaking welsh from english as soon as you walk in. Yet you can't say nothing to them, for fear of being xenophobic?
Heres my tip. Open your eyes to why people have voted leave instead of labelling everyone racist, blah blah, your spoon fed leftie, weasal information isn't true at all.
visit the towns where its gone to shit. Then you'll understand why
It's gone to shit in your town, not because of immigrants (or single mothers while we're at it), but because you've been politically, economically and socially exiled by the ruling elite for decades - maybe centuries. You're angry at the wrong people. You're angry at people who are pretty similar to you and fighting the same battle. The only difference is their language and country of birth.
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Yes IbizaYou assume I live somewhere nice
I'm done with this convo anyway. Theres good members on here and i've had heated discussions and helpfull information of quite a few folk. I enjoy reading your reviews, but my opinions clearly clash. I think i'm only brexiteer on here (give me credit for standing my ground)
Enjoy your weekend
spinksy123
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Prime example of the split in this country this thread.
I don't give a shit what Nationality the person in the fast food restaurant is.....as long as they can understand my order!
People get pissed off with a Polski food store opening up in their local shops to cater for polish residents. Yet no one complains about an Irish Bar in Spain to cater for the British...
However. Our country's infrastructure has a limit. And we're already close. An open door policy is not ideal.
Also I didn't see a ballot paper with Donald Tusks name on it. So I'm sorry the democratic process of the EU needs a major overhaul......
I don't give a shit what Nationality the person in the fast food restaurant is.....as long as they can understand my order!
People get pissed off with a Polski food store opening up in their local shops to cater for polish residents. Yet no one complains about an Irish Bar in Spain to cater for the British...
However. Our country's infrastructure has a limit. And we're already close. An open door policy is not ideal.
Also I didn't see a ballot paper with Donald Tusks name on it. So I'm sorry the democratic process of the EU needs a major overhaul......
Few people would argue otherwise. But you can't instigate change from the outside. Now we are bound by rules, regulations and financial commitments without any input. Barmy.
Our own political system is a mess to say the least. Can we have a referendum on whether we can leave that? Please.
spinksy123
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Germany's exports to the UK 86 billion euros.........they want a trade deal.
Nostalgic
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This got posted before I added my last comment so I'll add to it.
I am angry at the labour party for letting it go to shit , i am angry at how being in the EU with this freedom of movement has made it a negative instead of a positive. And is the reason why it needs be got rid of. Hence why I voted Leave.
The language thing is the icing on the cake. If they can't speak English then what goods that on a building site or in any job? You shouldn't be catering for them, they have to learn it.
spinksy123
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Corbyn and John McDonnell. A terrible prospect........
Without knowing - or wanting to know - who you vote for, let me tell you I sympathise with you feeling politically abandoned. The labour party is in a bad way, no doubt. They are far from an attractive choice.
But if you are from a working class background, then the Conservatives do not represent you, nor will they ever. They only ever look out for their own interests and that of their sponsors. The same goes for Farage. He is a tory in a working class sheep skin. Do not believe his "man of the people" persona. He is a millionaire, ex-banker with a German wife, who's children speak German as their first language who spends most of his time in his many overseas properties, whilst he scrounges a wage of the EU. He's lived in France for years; can't speak a word of it - the kind of person you claim to despise.
The Lib Dems and Green are impotent, regardless of where you sit on the spectrum.
And British First and the National Front and the like are nothing but knuckle-dragging thugs without one iota of intellect or charisma about them.
So I get it. Who do you turn to?
But trust me, your problems aren't really to do with immigrants. They've just been presented to you as the enemy but the real enemy - the press barons who have deep vested interests in our politics.