Women in dance music...discuss!

ibizainside said:
Is it even worth going to nowadays? Sunset Strip that is.. haven't even bothered going for the last 2 or 3 years, it just gets so crowded, the music from each bar clashing with each other if you are sitting on the rocks

There are better places for the sunset these days, to be honest i'd rather sit on a quiet beach or cliff and watch with a bottle of wine and a joint than be amoungst all that rabble! :)

Shame really as I did really used to love CDM, Mambo not so much.. but i'm not up for paying club prices for drinks to sit and watch the sunset
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may, june, september - OK to go still mostly. but yeah, july and august...waaaay to busy for my liking. as many other places on the island, the savannah-cdm-mambo bit has IMO become a victim of its own success.
 
Maybe we could continue here as it is a really good discussion.

I agree with a lot of the points made - I haven't yet experienced first hand how difficult it is personally but you can obviously observe and see comments on twitter etc and read between the lines. It's a massive shame when you think that dance music is all based on inclusive qualities and bringing down the walls so to speak.

Seen Haai a few times over the past months and I'm really bowled over by her I must say. Such an original sound - difficult to describe but had some amazing dance floor moments watching her play. Can't speak highly enough of her and Phonox.
 
looking fwd to hearing what the guys who post in the 'nipplegate' thread have got to say about equality in dance music
 
Thanks for starting up a separate thread, elmooeo. There is a lot to say on the topic and it's one which I feel very strongly about However, I agree that it's best it moved away from the 'Gossip Thread'.
 
Clara said:
Thanks for starting up a separate thread, elmooeo. There is a lot to say on the topic and it's one which I feel very strongly about However, I agree that it's best it moved away from the 'Gossip Thread'.
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Yeah sorry, wasn't trying to shut it down at all! Hopefully can get it going again here.
 
elmooreo said:
Yeah sorry, wasn't trying to shut it down at all! Hopefully can get it going again here.
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Hope so. It's very frustrating when people comment that because there are some female DJs then clearly everything is ok and the reason why there aren't more is down to a lack of talent.

I take my hat off to women who do make it as DJs as it's a lot of hard work and can be very intimidating (see the comments that Jackmaster refers to, plus the keyboard warriors that turn up on the Boiler Room/Mixmag/DJ Mag socials when they book a woman to play).

I can see why so many women are put off pursuing it as a career. I've even heard (usually nice) male friends come out with "she's not a bad DJ for a woman" type comments which there is no way they would be allowed to say if commenting of someone's gender or race.
 
Clara said:
Hope so. It's very frustrating when people comment that because there are some female DJs then clearly everything is ok and the reason why there aren't more is down to a lack of talent.
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I think a lot of the female dj's that have broken through are extra talented - look at The Black Madonna, Shanti Celeste and Haai...each bring something different to the table and very much have cultivated their own sound and are great diggers and selectors - I've chosen them because they play the kind of music I'm really into but I'm sure there are other examples in techno and other scenes....It never really occurred to me before that they might have found it all the harder to get noticed despite their raw talent.
 
@Clara may I pry, and ask which event/PR you work for? Any link to soundcloud page?

**sorry, thread hijack already** :spank:
 
elmooreo said:
It never really occurred to me before that they might have found it all the harder to get noticed despite their raw talent.
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I guess the whole Jackmaster thing that you mentioned made me think it all through again. Perhaps I've been guilty in the past of thinking it was all fuss and nonsense and was restricted to a few Boiler Room trolls...
 
Clara said:
Haven't heard of her before.
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This is a prime example! She's really good yet I'd never heard of her and none of my friends of Facebook (which includes many DJs, music journalists, promoters, people at labels, booking agents, etc) 'like' her page. Usually when I hear a new artist, I go to their Facebook page and at least some people I know in the industry 'like' them.
 
I've come to this thread late, but there are loads of great female (and techno!) DJs who I've admired for a long time; too many to mention. Miss Kitten, Misstress Barbara, Margaret Dygas, Nicole Moudaber. (Just to name a few!)

This thread made me think, however, and I looked back to some lineups from last year.. Timewarp 2016, for example .. only 4 women I beleive? Nicole Moudaber, Magda, Monika Kruse and Nina Kraviz. This year, I counted 5 (?)on the lineup.

Last year's timewarp, they were on fairly early in the night too. In my (limited) experience, female DJs at major festivals are not often on the 5:am 'til close stage.
 
Dont Forget the Black Madonna. She is a big shot in the US and well known here. Very versatile + cool.
 
I do think that female djs are under represented at major events and generally. The line ups are proof enough considering women make up 51pc of the world population. Over the years from prog to trance to techno I've enjoyed listening to women Dj. Presently kruse, kraviz, Schneider and the black madonna are on top of their game imo and my listen list.

Image is a huge thing and is in virtually every industry.

What I don't think helps the cause of female djs is the third party investment behind more than a few pretty, genre hopping and frankly bang average female djs - I'm talking from a track selection, programming and technical perspective. Step forward Rebekah and Claudia Cacazu to name but two. The way Mikaela's investors have practically bought mixmag, tens of thousands of pounds of promotion, a night at space and ghost written tracks is obscene and does the female dj cause no good at all. To her credit, shes worked hard at it on the playa den bossa beach bar scene but does not deserve the investment behind her on the basis of her ability. She isn't alone and is the most extreme case. Imagine that investment going to the aforementioned female djs.

All that said, I can think of plenty of male edm djs out there who have benefitted in similar way to Mikaela, minus the bar work and they are millionaires.
 
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