Politics - UK - 2017

where's the money coming from when growth slows? the IMF? the World Bank? the money tree?

the UK is about to really hit the economic shit in the next 2 years so there will be even less in the kitty - we all know that

if Labour's ambitions are to be realised, they have to explain HOW
 
Labour went wrong when they picked the wrong miliband brother imho. "Cracking cheese gromit" :rolleyes:

The problem with the right and there policies is its not proper capitalising but monopolies and the state taking all the risk with the private companies taking all the profit.

Look at the ambulance services, and who are on the boards of the private companies that run them....

Maybe trump will sort it all out with a good old nuclear war.:rolleyes:
 
Amp and Deck said:
where's the money coming from when growth slows? the IMF? the World Bank? the money tree?

the UK is about to really hit the economic shit in the next 2 years so there will be even less in the kitty - we all know that

if Labour's ambitions are to be realised, they have to explain HOW
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True but where's it all coming from now and where does all the money the country make go?

Plus London is gonna lose a lot of is tax revenue after the banks etc set up shop inside the EU (as some are already)

Maybe turn the UK into a tourist attraction - Yeah 'oldie world - marry popins style. After all no manufacturing sector or service sector potentially in a couple years!
 
Well we need to do something about the trickle up economics. With automation, zero hour contracts etc in the long term who's going to be able to buy the goods & services if the top 1% have all the wealth.

Ironically in worst case scenario the wealth of the top 1% becomes worthless as it only has value in a functioning society. Or perhaps they'll have automation able to produce whatever they want and so the 99% will disappear. (Kinda like in the time machine lol)

End of the day it's all a messed up pyramid scheme which won't end well. (Infinite growth even at a low 2% per year is not sustainable in a finite world - and current capitalist models require growth or it goes bust).

So who's off to ibiza to get wasted, I'm buying* :D


*only for those in VIP section ;)
 
Bonzo said:
Just seen the news - I'm voting Lib Dem ;)
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Yeah. @Johnny Vodka gave spotlight the heads up yesterday about that policy. Maybe hes a libdem insider? But as I said yesterday, they have no chance of passing that law if they jump in to bed with the Torys again. To be fair,weed and the 48% is all they have to offer really.
 
I wager some of those 52% would choose weed over any referendum result but I take your point
 
Amp and Deck said:
hmm, not quite as simple as he makes out...

you gain in short term but lose in longer term

https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/9206

and do you really want to hit companies when they're already going to take a massive hit from post-brexit tariffs?
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The company's will cope. Share holders will have to take a hit,just like their workers have had to. Corperation tax is just one of many ways to raise money for public services. If Labour did win the GE the company's wouldn't have to worry so much about a hard brexit.
 
balearic joe said:
Yeah. @Johnny Vodka gave spotlight the heads up yesterday about that policy. Maybe hes a libdem insider? But as I said yesterday, they have no chance of passing that law if they jump in to bed with the Torys again. To be fair,weed and the 48% is all they have to offer really.
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The aptly named Greens have a progressive drugs policy too, as well as being socialist and obviously giving a shit about the environment. Probably more chance of me voting Green than Lib Dem atm.
 
Anyone who cares about their neighbour should be voting tactically. That's all there is to it to me, but in a world where some football fans still but The S*n, you can't persuade the man on street to oust the people that are f***ing him
 
Before you dismiss drug legalisation (or decriminalisation) as trivial, I think you have to consider which sections of the population are most likely to get searched/caught/a criminal record for possession and how that criminal record might affect their life chances in terms of finding employment.
 
Tony Blair said this ahead of last General Election and it's as true as ever: "A traditional left-wing party competes with a traditional right-wing party, with the traditional result". I.e. The left lose....
 
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