Some friends who just got back from the island told me that there is an overwhelming police presence... lots of roadblocks, searching everyone in cars, in front of DC10 and Space they are searching as many people as possible. Is this true? Is there more a police presence this year?
Police Presence increases?
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blindmanskunk
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Why???
Are you thinking of taking into these venues some illegal substances
Seriously though, during my stay on the island from the 4-15th sept, i never noticed any higher police presence than what your friend told you, i visited many area's on the island & hardly saw any police at all. That was even without me wearing a helmet when riding on a Go-Ped, but ofcourse outside the big club's might be a different matter, however i would'nt worry too much about it, unless it's for some other reason.
Dave
Why???
Are you thinking of taking into these venues some illegal substances
Seriously though, during my stay on the island from the 4-15th sept, i never noticed any higher police presence than what your friend told you, i visited many area's on the island & hardly saw any police at all. That was even without me wearing a helmet when riding on a Go-Ped, but ofcourse outside the big club's might be a different matter, however i would'nt worry too much about it, unless it's for some other reason.
Dave
Of couse not... I'm just, um, curious.
WeLuvIbiza
Active Member
We were there 1st to 4th September and never saw a policeman / woman. We went to Space on the Saturday & Sunday and Ibiza town Friday night.
Just got back from the island and there were police searching people outside the big clubs. A few of my friends and people i spoke to had also been searched outside the clubs or had they're car pulled over and searched.
Whilst i was there i had my wallet stolen so had to go to the guardia civil to report it. When i was there i heard an English guy pleading with them to let him see his girlfriend who had been caught with drugs outside space. This was on Sunday and they wouldnt let her out or him see her until she had been to the court the next day.
Just be very carefull!
Whilst i was there i had my wallet stolen so had to go to the guardia civil to report it. When i was there i heard an English guy pleading with them to let him see his girlfriend who had been caught with drugs outside space. This was on Sunday and they wouldnt let her out or him see her until she had been to the court the next day.
Just be very carefull!
I can't think of a word to describe zero tolerance at the sort of level you've described
WeLuvIbiza
Active Member
a re-post from what i wrote elsewhere. i was in IBZ from September 8-16.
additionally...
at WLS on Sept 10, a group of friends (3 men, 3 women) were stopped in the parking lot at 18:00, just as they were walking up to the club. the men were told to drop their pants and Guardia Civil checked inside their underwear for drugs (they had none). the female Guadia Civil officers felt the outer portions of my female friends' panties and even pushed their fingers slightly into their vaginas for anything that might have been stashed inside their vaginal cavity. the search upset my friends greatly and some of my female friends were on the verge of tears.
these searches were very upsetting for all involved. be careful and be safe! i saw many people get arrested, even inside the clubs for only a small amount in their possession. i can only imagine the strict enforcement in place for closing parties.
Surely a search of that nature violates just about every law in the world relating to human rights? Police can't go around shoving their fingers into womens vaginas
that's definitely a gross violation of human rights if that happened me i would certainly not let this drop i would pursue it vigoursly,in any civilised society this is not allowed to happen,they can only search you in that manner if you are arrested and brought down the station and you have the right to get in touch with your consulate first,seriously this is shocking there's no way you should've allowed this to happen.
The Guardia have always been heavy handed and naughty. Perhaps there are bad eggs in every Police Force, but I have seen many unsavoury incidents during my time in Ibiza.
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i haven't seen a single naughty incident involving the guardia civil in my many years as a tourist and resident of the island. it's fairly obvious why, i don't hang about with people taking or dealing illegal substances, and neither am i abroad in the middle of the night.
perhaps it would be pertinent to mention again that the moroccans who blew themselves and several guardia civil to pieces in madrid were involved in the supply of drugs in ibiza to raise funds for their terrorist activities.
perhaps it would be pertinent to mention again that the moroccans who blew themselves and several guardia civil to pieces in madrid were involved in the supply of drugs in ibiza to raise funds for their terrorist activities.
this is simply outrageous
"the war on drugs" is whole big issue which has lot to do with a lot of things
but linking folk who like taking pills and dancin like nutters to terrorism and the like is either hysterical over reaction or purposeful over reaction
people do drugs
lots of people do drugs
either the majority or a significant minority of the people who visit ibiza (and this board) take drugs
the clubbing scene which has built ibiza from a impoverished backwater into the swish party central we see today ....
was built and continues to be built on the drug culture that.....
... created and continues to create the music which is the central cog of the wheel
... and provides the vibe that these "super " clubs rely on
to suggest otherwise is simple not possible
and in your case extremely churlish
yes drugs are illegal .... but should they be ?
another debate perhaps
but the truth is hundreds of thousands of young people do take drugs in ibiza every year.,..
they save up all year and when they get there they take some illegal substance
they hurt no one ....
in fact they become smiley loved up party people
and in return they get ripped of
insulted
assaulted by the police, the bouncers and larry pisshead arseholes
a man in your position should have used this opportunity to engage in reasoned debate and information gathering and attempted to delve into this a little further
coz in case you havent got it.... the tension between the gaurda/disco mafia/others and drug culture is looking like it might end in tears with ibiza loosing its "party capital" crown
your holier than tho ... scare mongering post is at best silly ...
at worst .... i dunno mate.... mental
Morbyd
Moderator
Just to play a bit of devil's advocate here:
Wasn't there a big drug-related shoot-out in San Antonio this season? Obviously not everyone involved in the drug scene is a "loved-up party person"!
I was in Ibiza last week, and I never saw any police searching anyone.
Never even got searched entering any club (Pacha twice, Space, and Amnesia)
Only thing that happened was when my mates and I were putting chewing gum in our mouths in Pacha and a bouncer pounced immediately.....how we loved showing him it was just chewing gum!
And yes, people cannot say the culture (or clubbing culture) in Ibiza is not fueled by drugs is insane. You get offered by every ticket seller/randon every 5 mins....the two go hand in hand.
Also, I still never saw one fight or problem the whole time I was there. give me that culture over drunkedn yobs anyday
Never even got searched entering any club (Pacha twice, Space, and Amnesia)
Only thing that happened was when my mates and I were putting chewing gum in our mouths in Pacha and a bouncer pounced immediately.....how we loved showing him it was just chewing gum!
And yes, people cannot say the culture (or clubbing culture) in Ibiza is not fueled by drugs is insane. You get offered by every ticket seller/randon every 5 mins....the two go hand in hand.
Also, I still never saw one fight or problem the whole time I was there. give me that culture over drunkedn yobs anyday
discodude are you for one minute trying to suggest that drug dealers are not involved in organised crime and that their customers don't realise this? are you trying to tell us that ibiza was a backwater prior to 1988 when the clubbers arrived? coincidentally 1988 was the year when tourist numbers started to drop in ibiza? are you trying to tell us that the deaths this year of clubbers who overdosed on bad drugs or threw themselves from balconies didn't hurt anyone? i reckon you need to rethink your flimsy arguments and revise your opinion of what is mental.
The Rave and Club scene was and is built on illegal drugs and discodude makes a valid point many many people in fact id say the majority of clubbers who go to Ibiza would partake at some time or other in drug taking,some may deny it (fcuk knows why) others are more brazen about it,me sure ive been on the scene since 1990 longer than most i know,i still partake a number of times a year and did when i was in Ibiza,consider this if Ibiza was a drug free island would they still get the numbers they get thesedays?
Not a chance would they it would just be another tourist destination like Gran Canaria,etc,etc it wouldn't be unique and you wouldn't have party people from all over the world going there for a few weeks a year to go clubbing every other nite till dawn and then onto another party,sure you'd still get lots of "normal" tourists but it wouldn't have that same vibe it has and lets face it because of drugs aka E's/Coke,etc that's why these clubs are so popular,how many normal tourists would you likely to see going to Space first thing in the morning,Space would lose out big time being the licence to print money that it already is.
I think with respect that discodude hasd made a very valid point.
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Clearly if you buy drugs you may be helping to fund the nefarious activities of organised criminal groups.
I think discodude's point is that individual ravers are not helping criminals very much. Therefore they should not be held responsible for the actions of those who profit from the black market.
That logic is like blaming motorists for the invasion of Iraq. You buy your gas, which funds oil companies who require resources available in foreign countries, which are then invaded by governments whose economies run on oil.
The system is at fault here, and that system is prohibition. Recreational drug use is relatively safe compared with driving a motor car for example.
Those risks that do exist are in fact exacerabated by prohibition. Even a brief examination of alcohol prohibition in the US last century shows how truly disasterous those policies are.
The prohibition of recreational drugs has little to no effect on their consumption and provides a lucrative income for organised criminal groups.
just to reiterate the point i made before dd's rant and dr. mick's informed arguments about prohibition..........
drugs are illegal on ibiza. the guardia civil are tasked with stopping illegal activities. most drug users are clubbers so the guardia target them. one reason why the guardia are a little impolite with drug users/dealers is the loss of their colleagues (as mentioned above)
non clubbers are unlikely to be troubled by or even see the guardia in action.
drugs are illegal on ibiza. the guardia civil are tasked with stopping illegal activities. most drug users are clubbers so the guardia target them. one reason why the guardia are a little impolite with drug users/dealers is the loss of their colleagues (as mentioned above)
non clubbers are unlikely to be troubled by or even see the guardia in action.