January Transfer Deadline Day

ben said:
go on ron gourlay you closing warrior!

i still can't get my head round how much money torres is costing us (and i think luiz is the better signing). however, it's lovely watching the bin dippers squirm. their sweetheart sacked them off for the chels. can't wait for sunday - there are some immense songs doing the rounds already.
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Ben what you don realise is alot of Liverpool fans are glad hes gone. His body language has been terrible as season. What makes me laugh is hes left because he wants to win things and you have fallen out the top 4. You wont even get into the champs league next year. Michael Owen did the same, wanted to win things, left us then won **** all. Then we went on to win the champions league then come runners up 2 seasons later. Looking forward to Carra snapping his legs on sunday!
 
Uncle_Sevo said:
you have fallen out the top 4. You wont even get into the champs league next year.
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Are you looking at a different PL table than the rest of us? We're still in the top 4, mate. And certainly not down in 7th hoping for a Europa League spot.
Uncle_Sevo said:
Looking forward to Carra snapping his legs on sunday!
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Will he steal his hubcaps too?
Olly said:
there's people discharged from the army sleeping on the streets, families struggling, local government facing massive cuts - how is that right?
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How irrelevant is that?!!
If it bothers you, why don't you offer those former soldiers all your available floor space? Socialism is dead...
 
sorry, but it's morally obscene. we're all being asked to tighten our belts in this country. Footballers should be massively taxed if fees like that are being exchanged, instead of it all going in their and their agents' pockets
 
Olly said:
sorry, but it's morally obscene. we're all being asked to tighten our belts in this country. Footballers should be massively taxed if fees like that are being exchanged, instead of it all going in their and their agents' pockets
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They are massively taxed. 50% tax rate! That's pretty obscene.
If you're tightening your belt, it's because you don't have money. Other people do. It's certainly not their fault that you don't! Business is business.
(sorry... I just don't get this argument, which I've seen in a lot of UK press articles lately, that if some people are hurting that means everybody should and no one else should spend the money they have...)
 
Morbyd said:
They are massively taxed. 50% tax rate! That's pretty obscene.
If you're tightening your belt, it's because you don't have money. Other people do. It's certainly not their fault that you don't! Business is business.
(sorry... I just don't get this argument, which I've seen in a lot of UK press articles lately, that if some people are hurting that means everybody should and no one else should spend the money they have...)
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I agree with Olly tbh mate. In a time where the government is cutting back on all public services, for football clubs to sped about £200 million on players is obscene imo.

Tbh Football is getting out of touch with the working man. It costs me £50 a ticket to watch West Ham in a "B" game. At the rate its going how will I be able to afford to take my future kids to a game?
 
it's not the players' fault.

literally, don't hate the player hate the game! if i were in torres or another player's boots. i reckon i'd take 200k a week rather than take the moral high ground.

rupert murdoch is where i point my finger.

but in many ways, hasn't it always been a bit like this. not as widespread but for the best players, it sort of has.
 
Robbie G said:
I agree with Olly tbh mate. In a time where the government is cutting back on all public services, for football clubs to sped about £200 million on players is obscene imo.

Tbh Football is getting out of touch with the working man. It costs me £50 a ticket to watch West Ham in a "B" game. At the rate its going how will I be able to afford to take my future kids to a game?
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Two separate issue.

On the first one, easy answer. The government and its problems have nothing, zero, nada to do with professional sports. That's private sector business, plain and simple!

On the second issue, yes, that's a problem. Many of the clubs are facing it. But there's obviously demand to meet supply at clubs like West Ham with full stadiums. The clubs are sensitive to the issue (eg. Chelsea froze ticket prices for half of the past decade). That's why everyone wants new/expanded stadiums.
 
djjaycool said:
50 million pounds for Torres is crazy:eek:
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It is a hell of alot for someone whos best days playin were 2/3 years ago. If he can recapture that form and stay injury free he will be worth it.

Now the three worst sulkers in the PL are all at Chelsea :lol:

Dont be suprised if Anceloti doesnt save their season that Benitez becomes their new manager ;) they are after all 'Desperate' to win the CL.
 
Morbyd said:
Two separate issue.

On the first one, easy answer. The government and its problems have nothing, zero, nada to do with professional sports. That's private sector business, plain and simple!

On the second issue, yes, that's a problem. Many of the clubs are facing it. But there's obviously demand to meet supply at clubs like West Ham with full stadiums. The clubs are sensitive to the issue (eg. Chelsea froze ticket prices for half of the past decade). That's why everyone wants new/expanded stadiums.
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I didnt say they were connected mate I said its obscene to be spending that kind of money in the middle of a recession imo. Also as I stated earlier all this kind of spending will do is make the gap between the top 5 or 6 and the rest of the league bigger.

Well I dont think West Ham could fill the fabled Olympic Stadium with 60k week in week out. So the promised cheaper tickets wont appear. It wasn't a sell out at Upton Park on Sunday for the FA cup at £17 a ticket!
 
grego said:
it's not the players' fault.

Literally, don't hate the player hate the game! If i were in torres or another player's boots. I reckon i'd take 200k a week rather than take the moral high ground.

rupert murdoch is where i point my finger.

but in many ways, hasn't it always been a bit like this. Not as widespread but for the best players, it sort of has.
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+1
 
Robbie G said:
I didnt say they were connected mate I said its obscene to be spending that kind of money in the middle of a recession imo.
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This attitude is what I can't get my head around (not talking about you specifically, Robbie, but I hear/read this a lot in the UK these days).

If I've got a sandwich, should I not eat it because the guy down the other end of the table only has a cracker? Am I supposed to share my sandwich with him? Am I obscene for enjoying my sandwich?

I don't get upset at seeing other people (in business, sport, or personal life) spending money, even if I can't. And I really don't understand why people do, recession or no recession.
 
I was stating on current form to pay 50 million pounds for Torres is crazy. I think it is win for Liverpool to get that much and lose a cancer in the club. As far as spending money it is a private thing for each person or business. Like the saying goes "the man with no shoes complained until he met a man with no feet". The price of attending sporting event will keep rising as long as the market will bear it. I went to a Super bowl (American NFL) as a kid, but today I can't/ won't afford the $5000 plus for a ticket. The game is sold out every year. My two cents on it.
 
Morbyd said:
This attitude is what I can't get my head around (not talking about you specifically, Robbie, but I hear/read this a lot in the UK these days).

If I've got a sandwich, should I not eat it because the guy down the other end of the table only has a cracker? Am I supposed to share my sandwich with him? Am I obscene for enjoying my sandwich?

I don't get upset at seeing other people (in business, sport, or personal life) spending money, even if I can't. And I really don't understand why people do, recession or no recession.
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I don't think people are upset with other people spending money if they can't, it's more a commentary on liberal capitalism then football itself when we say that the wealth should be shared more equitably & a symptom of it that £50m of the wealth in society passes from one millionaire, to a billionaire, to ultimately sit in a bank accoout.

It's when people have no crackers, through no fault of their own & starve & your using your sandwich to clean the windows - that is ..... horrific, but it's where we are unfortunatly.

Yes, to all of the commentary on the relative concept of value, we had no time, sh1t loads of money & needed a top striker - therefore he's worth 35 million!
 
Robbie G said:
I didnt say they were connected mate I said its obscene to be spending that kind of money in the middle of a recession imo. Also as I stated earlier all this kind of spending will do is make the gap between the top 5 or 6 and the rest of the league bigger.

Well I dont think West Ham could fill the fabled Olympic Stadium with 60k week in week out. So the promised cheaper tickets wont appear. It wasn't a sell out at Upton Park on Sunday for the FA cup at £17 a ticket!
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I don't understand why the spending is obscene in a recession, but not out of one? The two are unrelated, it's not like its tax payers money.
 
djjaycool said:
I went to a Super bowl (American NFL) as a kid, but today I can't/ won't afford the $5000 plus for a ticket. The game is sold out every year. My two cents on it.
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Did you see that this year they have a new kind of Superbowl ticket for which you pay $200 to stand outside the stadium in the parking lot and watch on a big screen? Now THAT is taking the p1ss! :lol:
 
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