Dance Music: Where are things at?

mashednlovingit said:
The evolution of sampling.
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In a way yes, but this seems to me where tech comes into conflict with marketing and human emotion. Cos if you're marketing parties and DJs as the providers of interactive 'experiences' punters get emotionally invested in, you'll have a bit of a problem when those humans are no longer needed. Are people going to cheer AI-powered DJ consoles transmitting fake familiar-sounding voices? How will the billboards promote a party without a figurehead? Especially when clubs/festies realise they will save millions on DJ fees by doing away with them altogether and getting some engineer to power all the machinery up instead. Sound far-fetched? I'm not so sure
 
I'm keeping my observations on here and not the 'gossip thread' because I would only end up derailing it but FWIW my thinking is that whilst it is great to see some seriously credible people getting booked for HI and DC10, the format at neither really appeals to me. Far too many people on the bill, too many mismatched DJs (a credible/commercial quota at work) and laughably short time slots (90mins at a guess) which would never showcase their music in its full glory. Until the clubs get back to a proper warm up + main guest (ie how it used to be) punters will never get to experience these DJs at their best. Personally I think it would have been better if the likes of Antal, Paramida, Cosmo, Young Marco and Red Axes each had been given full reign at their respective nights because each has amazing record collections. But still, good to see them getting slots because these are all people I hugely respect and followed for many years, and not known for banging out the hits.
 
btw ^ not an anti-ibiza post. it's the same story here too and anywhere now. multi lineups everywhere. The way events are marketed are about selling names and not the experience itself. I think most seasoned punters would still prefer to lose themselves in something that lasts hours and not be peaking every 10 minutes but increasingly that isn't possible unless you go somewhere trully clandestine or off the map. At some point in the last 10-15 years everything changed to ensure a diet of constant bangers. Whether clubbers now have shorter attention spans I don't know but a lot of DJs have commented on this and have had to adapt to stay in business. And that doesn't sit right with me.
 
SOS Sargantana said:
I'm keeping my observations on here and not the 'gossip thread' because I would only end up derailing it but FWIW my thinking is that whilst it is great to see some seriously credible people getting booked for HI and DC10, the format at neither really appeals to me. Far too many people on the bill, too many mismatched DJs (a credible/commercial quota at work) and laughably short time slots (90mins at a guess) which would never showcase their music in its full glory. Until the clubs get back to a proper warm up + main guest (ie how it used to be) punters will never get to experience these DJs at their best. Personally I think it would have been better if the likes of Antal, Paramida, Cosmo, Young Marco and Red Axes each had been given full reign at their respective nights because each has amazing record collections. But still, good to see them getting slots because these are all people I hugely respect and followed for many years, and not known for banging out the hits.
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Add Henrick Schwarz to that list (yes i am now a self proclaimed fan boy)
 
Yeah agree…although kind of respect that Circo has generally always been about the sound and not an individual dj and many have come and gone over the years…they are always switching it up. Would still go there blind I think.
 
SOS Sargantana said:
I'm keeping my observations on here and not the 'gossip thread' because I would only end up derailing it but FWIW my thinking is that whilst it is great to see some seriously credible people getting booked for HI and DC10, the format at neither really appeals to me. Far too many people on the bill, too many mismatched DJs (a credible/commercial quota at work) and laughably short time slots (90mins at a guess) which would never showcase their music in its full glory. Until the clubs get back to a proper warm up + main guest (ie how it used to be) punters will never get to experience these DJs at their best. Personally I think it would have been better if the likes of Antal, Paramida, Cosmo, Young Marco and Red Axes each had been given full reign at their respective nights because each has amazing record collections. But still, good to see them getting slots because these are all people I hugely respect and followed for many years, and not known for banging out the hits.
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Yeah god forbid anyone brings up music in the gossip thread!
 
Haha, i just feel like i would kill the buzz on there or get yellow carded by Mr Why. I haven't completely given up on clubbing but just think the smaller places are way more interesting, and sadly somewhere like malanga gets zero traffic on here
 
SOS Sargantana said:
Haha, i just feel like i would kill the buzz on there or get yellow carded by Mr Why. I haven't completely given up on clubbing but just think the smaller places are way more interesting, and sadly somewhere like malanga gets zero traffic on here
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Goes without saying nowadays!!
 
SOS Sargantana said:
he seems to have rehabilitated Skrillex too, which I imagine nobody thought humanly possible
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I was listening to a Four Tet, Fred Again and Skrillex tune the other day and was quite surprised by how good it is. :lol: I mean to go back to it, as it feels like those of those tracks that gets better on subsequent listens. I do trust FT. I think he can take elements that shouldn't work together and make something great from them.
 
Johnny Vodka said:
I was listening to a Four Tet, Fred Again and Skrillex tune the other day and was quite surprised by how good it is. :lol: I mean to go back to it, as it feels like those of those tracks that gets better on subsequent listens. I do trust FT. I think he can take elements that shouldn't work together and make something great from them.
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the sonic equivalent of root canal surgery imo but horses/courses/opinions/arseholes etc
 
SOS Sargantana said:
I'm keeping my observations on here and not the 'gossip thread' because I would only end up derailing it but FWIW my thinking is that whilst it is great to see some seriously credible people getting booked for HI and DC10, the format at neither really appeals to me. Far too many people on the bill, too many mismatched DJs (a credible/commercial quota at work) and laughably short time slots (90mins at a guess) which would never showcase their music in its full glory. Until the clubs get back to a proper warm up + main guest (ie how it used to be) punters will never get to experience these DJs at their best. Personally I think it would have been better if the likes of Antal, Paramida, Cosmo, Young Marco and Red Axes each had been given full reign at their respective nights because each has amazing record collections. But still, good to see them getting slots because these are all people I hugely respect and followed for many years, and not known for banging out the hits.
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i agree with what you are saying from a musical perspective. However, those names you quote being given extended time slots at the likes of Hi/DC10 would inevitably mean less names on the bill.....names sell tickets these days (more names the better for the younger generation) and those names you quote simply wouldn't sell enough tickets for the promoters. So therefore, they are never going to do that.
 
onemore said:
i agree with what you are saying from a musical perspective. However, those names you quote being given extended time slots at the likes of Hi/DC10 would inevitably mean less names on the bill.....names sell tickets these days (more names the better for the younger generation) and those names you quote simply wouldn't sell enough tickets for the promoters. So therefore, they are never going to do that.
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exactly. nail on head. It all makes sense from a marketing sense and they have to make money, I don't begrudge them that but equally it's evidently not aimed at old fckers like me who grew up on DJs having the time/freedom to really build a set and blow your mind.
 
SOS Sargantana said:
I'm keeping my observations on here and not the 'gossip thread' because I would only end up derailing it but FWIW my thinking is that whilst it is great to see some seriously credible people getting booked for HI and DC10, the format at neither really appeals to me. Far too many people on the bill, too many mismatched DJs (a credible/commercial quota at work) and laughably short time slots (90mins at a guess) which would never showcase their music in its full glory. Until the clubs get back to a proper warm up + main guest (ie how it used to be) punters will never get to experience these DJs at their best. Personally I think it would have been better if the likes of Antal, Paramida, Cosmo, Young Marco and Red Axes each had been given full reign at their respective nights because each has amazing record collections. But still, good to see them getting slots because these are all people I hugely respect and followed for many years, and not known for banging out the hits.
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Impossible question to answer. But Would the clubs/Ibiza still be as busy if we didn’t know who was playing, but just knew the genre of dance music for the event. For me it wouldn’t matter as long as I’m dancing to the music I like. Like the good old days I suppose.
 
gutsy said:
Impossible question to answer. But Would the clubs/Ibiza still be as busy if we didn’t know who was playing, but just knew the genre of dance music for the event. For me it wouldn’t matter as long as I’m dancing to the music I like. Like the good old days I suppose.
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you only need to look at big scale parties in London, which sell-out solely on the name and rep of the promoter without a line-up... but then draw hundreds of complaints when the line-up is revealed and the masses feel short-changed. I think the truth is, in the modern era people expect "names" and the names they know. You could tell them they will hear fantastic music either way, but they won't listen
 
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