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MrHullMysterious said:
I guess catching the infection earlier and reduced initial viral load (probably from masks and people been more careful) are helping with that.

Let's hope UK death numbers level off soon.?
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I dont personally know any staff who have been tested positive since very early April so I'm assuming PPE works. It would follow that what people are doing outside the hospital isnt quite as effective but is reducing viral load.
 
ElrowLovers said:
I definitely don't need saving. 99% of the people in the world don't need saving. Let's save the 1% who really need it and protect them instead of locking down the entire society (and thus creating even worse problems including severe health issues) until that 1% can get their vaccine.

Numbers are rising here because testing has increased. Numbers will fall when we stop testing or get better test methods. PCR has a 40% false positive number, as concluded in scientific research by the University Hospital in Utrecht, The Netherlands.
Hospitals are still miles away from the pressure they had in march. It's fall. There are people dying from flu and long infections every fall.

Flu vaccins are effective, until there's a new strain of the flu (like Covid)...we had that problem in 2016 and 2018 too.
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in summer when numbers were low I had some understanding for your point of view. I never agreed to it, but as I said, I could at least understand it.

now, the biggest countries in europe are back into 3 digit daily deaths. I genuinely fail to understand on how you still think we should open up the countries for the young and only protect the elderly.
 
IainB2 said:
I don't see how a vaccine that offers no sterilizing immunity and only alters the course of the illness for a percentage of recipients will make much difference. I have already stated why I think this will be how the vaccine works.

I sincerely hope I'm wrong and the vaccine is the silver bullet is being made out to be.
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the vaccine has to be pretty much the end of this though doesn’t it, however effective it is once it is rolled out we either eradicate the virus or learn to live with it. Worldwide the current mode is unsustainable beyond 6-12 months I would say
 
Bellagio said:
Just heard that The Canary Islands have been added to the UK's Safe Travel List
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problem is - a lot off the smaller islands are shutting down now. I know someone in Lanzarote the other week and it was fairly dead.

tenerife might be bit better As it’s bigger
 
IainB2 said:
I don't see how a vaccine that offers no sterilizing immunity and only alters the course of the illness for a percentage of recipients will make much difference. I have already stated why I think this will be how the vaccine works.

I sincerely hope I'm wrong and the vaccine is the silver bullet is being made out to be.
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Not sure what to tell you. Understand herd immunity and how vaccines drastically reduce viral spread even if you don’t have 100% sterilization immunity.

The vaccine will absolutely be a game changer along with the therapeutics that are coming out over the next few months.
 
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Or the majority were infected and either cake down with it or were not showing symptoms and now have some level of immunity?

I know 5 lads are digging together at Newcastle Uni, 4 have recently been positive, the other is negative but funnily enough he had a positive test in march/April.!!

Hally said:
I dont personally know any staff who have been tested positive since very early April so I'm assuming PPE works. It would follow that what people are doing outside the hospital isnt quite as effective but is reducing viral load.
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BenH said:
Or the majority were infected and either cake down with it or were not showing symptoms and now have some level of immunity?

I know 5 lads are digging together at Newcastle Uni, 4 have recently been positive, the other is negative but funnily enough he had a positive test in march/April.!!
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No antibodies either
 
stivi said:
in summer when numbers were low I had some understanding for your point of view. I never agreed to it, but as I said, I could at least understand it.

now, the biggest countries in europe are back into 3 digit daily deaths. I genuinely fail to understand on how you still think we should open up the countries for the young and only protect the elderly.
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Especially as the Netherlands is about to start exporting it’s Covid-19 patients to Germany because hospitals will soon be full.
 
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Springal said:
problem is - a lot off the smaller islands are shutting down now. I know someone in Lanzarote the other week and it was fairly dead.

tenerife might be bit better As it’s bigger
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It will be timely boost for them as Christmas is peak season there. Given Scotland has warned already for its citizens to expect a 'virtual Xmas' I can see a few heading to the Canaries.
 
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