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[CasaNegron]

We are on a forum dedicated to Ibiza. Some may feel its a frivolous luxury to lament the loss of their vacation. It may well be considering a global pandemic, but that is what this forum is for.

My situation is such that my frivolous luxury would enable my children to spend time with both sets of grandparents. One set they have not seen for over 9 months and the other for over 18 months. Each set lives in two different hemispheres. We are stuck in the middle, about 10 hours with multiple flights from either.

I could wait it out... perhaps, except that one has a rare form of progressive dementia. Not certain if he will be even partially communicative in summer 2021 (he is at about 75% now). Another one of them is in his 70's and yet another had chemotherapy last year (aka. vulnerable populations). They might not be around next year even if it were not for this pandemic, so loosing the opportunity to see them all together now sucks, and I am hopeful that something can be salvaged this year if conditions warrant. Traveling to see them separately is out of the question because of restrictions, as well as cumbersome and expensive .

Obviously loosing the trip is not as impactfull as any of them dying from this, or my partner dying from Covid, but dont piss on people for complaining or feeling sad.

 

[DelMarSunset]

I think it will be a lot less than in the developed world, surprisingly.

Keep in mind many of the fatalities (but not all) are people with underlying conditions. Those people are not in huge supply in Africa/ India etc. when you dont have rudimentary medical care and limited access to top pharmaceuticals.

I hope you're right but i'd say people who live in shanty towns and eat from rubbish dumps are more likely to have underlying health problems. Add in millions of people living on top of each other and no health care for the poorest, this thing could be catastrophic

 

[CasaNegron]

I hope you're right but i'd say people who live in shanty towns and eat from rubbish dumps are more likely to have underlying health problems. Add in millions of people living on top of each other and no health care for the poorest, this thing could be catastrophic

I hope that there is less (additional) suffering for the people there. With the rest of the world on fire, there is no help coming for some time.

 

[craig72]

We are on a forum dedicated to Ibiza. Some may feel its a frivolous luxury to lament the loss of their vacation. It may well be considering a global pandemic, but that is what this forum is for.

My situation is such that my frivolous luxury would enable my children to spend time with both sets of grandparents. One set they have not seen for over 9 months and the other for over 18 months. Each set lives in two different hemispheres. We are stuck in the middle, about 10 hours with multiple flights from either.

I could wait it out... perhaps, except that one has a rare form of progressive dementia. Not certain if he will be even partially communicative in summer 2021 (he is at about 75% now). Another one of them is in his 70's and yet another had chemotherapy last year (aka. vulnerable populations). They might not be around next year even if it were not for this pandemic, so loosing the opportunity to see them all together now sucks, and I am hopeful that something can be salvaged this year if conditions warrant. Traveling to see them separately is out of the question because of restrictions, as well as cumbersome and expensive .

Obviously loosing the trip is not as impactfull as any of them dying from this, or my partner dying from Covid, but dont piss on people for complaining or feeling sad.

Well I think the furthest travelers should be first back to the island. .. ?

 

[DelMarSunset]

We are on a forum dedicated to Ibiza. Some may feel its a frivolous luxury to lament the loss of their vacation. It may well be considering a global pandemic, but that is what this forum is for.

My situation is such that my frivolous luxury would enable my children to spend time with both sets of grandparents. One set they have not seen for over 9 months and the other for over 18 months. Each set lives in two different hemispheres. We are stuck in the middle, about 10 hours with multiple flights from either.

I could wait it out... perhaps, except that one has a rare form of progressive dementia. Not certain if he will be even partially communicative in summer 2021 (he is at about 75% now). Another one of them is in his 70's and yet another had chemotherapy last year (aka. vulnerable populations). They might not be around next year even if it were not for this pandemic, so loosing the opportunity to see them all together now sucks, and I am hopeful that something can be salvaged this year if conditions warrant. Traveling to see them separately is out of the question because of restrictions, as well as cumbersome and expensive .

Obviously loosing the trip is not as impactfull as any of them dying from this, or my partner dying from Covid, but dont piss on people for complaining or feeling sad.

My wedding in Ibiza in July is almost definitely going to be cancelled. We have several elderly guests who, even if it does go ahead, won't be able to attend. I have lost both parents in the year since we booked the villa and venue.... this July was supposed to be the holiday of a lifetime for my extended family and friends and something to look forward to after what's been the worst year of my life.

I'm pissed off. I don't think any of this is fair. I'm worried about my family becoming ill or worse.

What i won't do is say that people who were apparently going to "probably die anyway" don't matter.

 

[CasaNegron]

My wedding in Ibiza in July is almost definitely going to be cancelled. We have several elderly guests who, even if it does go ahead, won't be able to attend. I have lost both parents in the year since we booked the villa and venue.... this July was supposed to be the holiday of a lifetime for my extended family and friends and something to look forward to after what's been the worst year of my life.

I'm pissed off. I don't think any of this is fair. I'm worried about my family becoming ill or worse.

What i won't do is say that people who were apparently going to probably die anyway don't matter.

Sorry to hear about your folks. Not looking forward to that day at all, assuming I last any longer than they do. Nothing is given.

This outbreak has been a kick in the teeth for eveyone at all sorts of levels...

 

[cunninghamali]

I was worried about Italy when they had some many cases but Spain is now on par with them....

 

[cunninghamali]

My wedding in Ibiza in July is almost definitely going to be cancelled. We have several elderly guests who, even if it does go ahead, won't be able to attend. I have lost both parents in the year since we booked the villa and venue.... this July was supposed to be the holiday of a lifetime for my extended family and friends and something to look forward to after what's been the worst year of my life.

I'm pissed off. I don't think any of this is fair. I'm worried about my family becoming ill or worse.

What i won't do is say that people who were apparently going to "probably die anyway" don't matter.

I am so sorry to hear about your parents?? and such a shame that your wedding plans can't go ahead... It would if been great

It's all so unfair... This f***ing virus ruined everything

Next year things should be slowly getting better... We just have to look forward to that?

 

[stivi]

I was worried about Italy when they had some many cases but Spain is now on par with them....

almost. spain's number are released at midday whereas italy's come in a bit and I think italy will sadly still 'lead' europe when they put out the latest numbers.

 

[cunninghamali]

We are on a forum dedicated to Ibiza. Some may feel its a frivolous luxury to lament the loss of their vacation. It may well be considering a global pandemic, but that is what this forum is for.

My situation is such that my frivolous luxury would enable my children to spend time with both sets of grandparents. One set they have not seen for over 9 months and the other for over 18 months. Each set lives in two different hemispheres. We are stuck in the middle, about 10 hours with multiple flights from either.

I could wait it out... perhaps, except that one has a rare form of progressive dementia. Not certain if he will be even partially communicative in summer 2021 (he is at about 75% now). Another one of them is in his 70's and yet another had chemotherapy last year (aka. vulnerable populations). They might not be around next year even if it were not for this pandemic, so loosing the opportunity to see them all together now sucks, and I am hopeful that something can be salvaged this year if conditions warrant. Traveling to see them separately is out of the question because of restrictions, as well as cumbersome and expensive .

Obviously loosing the trip is not as impactfull as any of them dying from this, or my partner dying from Covid, but dont piss on people for complaining or feeling sad.

So sorry to hear that... I tell ya life it's hard enough as it is and now we have the f***ing virus to deal with

Normal family, sickness, drama problems and this virus is too much


I know we should not have to feel guilty about being sad our holiday or plans we look forward to are cancelled and ruined

 

[cunninghamali]

almost. spain's number are released at midday whereas italy's come in a bit and I think italy will sadly still 'lead' europe when they put out the latest numbers.

I don't get the numbers bit... Cus Who site has differ numbers to world o meters site I look on

 

[stivi]

We are on a forum dedicated to Ibiza. Some may feel its a frivolous luxury to lament the loss of their vacation. It may well be considering a global pandemic, but that is what this forum is for.

My situation is such that my frivolous luxury would enable my children to spend time with both sets of grandparents. One set they have not seen for over 9 months and the other for over 18 months. Each set lives in two different hemispheres. We are stuck in the middle, about 10 hours with multiple flights from either.

I could wait it out... perhaps, except that one has a rare form of progressive dementia. Not certain if he will be even partially communicative in summer 2021 (he is at about 75% now). Another one of them is in his 70's and yet another had chemotherapy last year (aka. vulnerable populations). They might not be around next year even if it were not for this pandemic, so loosing the opportunity to see them all together now sucks, and I am hopeful that something can be salvaged this year if conditions warrant. Traveling to see them separately is out of the question because of restrictions, as well as cumbersome and expensive .

Obviously loosing the trip is not as impactfull as any of them dying from this, or my partner dying from Covid, but dont piss on people for complaining or feeling sad.

I still have some hope for the late season personally. not so much for the clubs, in a way, at least to me, as days pass, 2020 clubbing seems more and more unlikely now. not just in ibiza, but on a global scale.

it's raining really hard here today, it's good for the island (we again had a winter with far too little rain). and it made me think, IF tourism can happen in the second part of the summer (even if it's without clubs), those people that make it to ibiza, they will get the most unique ibiza they've ever seen (and which they will see EVER). no matter if it's august, the island will NOT be packed, ibiza will be absolutely breathtakingly beautiful this summer. for a while already, I've been joking with some of my friends that this summer, we'll likely only have money for bread and alioli, but we might be on salinas beach every day which is a place we usually never go to in summer because it's too full. and the longer it takes, the more I realise that what I said might actually be the truth and not a joke at all!

 

[Browny]

They defo need a stricter lock down in uk... I thought it was strict already

Amount of cars on road this week is up massively compared to last....

 

[craig72]

I still have some hope for the late season personally. not so much for the clubs, in a way, at least to me, as days pass, 2020 clubbing seems more and more unlikely now. not just in ibiza, but on a global scale.

it's raining really hard here today, it's good for the island (we again had a winter with far too little rain). and it made me think, IF tourism can happen in the second part of the summer (even if it's without clubs), those people that make it to ibiza, they will get the most unique ibiza they've ever seen (and which they will see EVER). no matter if it's august, the island will NOT be packed, ibiza will be absolutely breathtakingly beautiful this summer. for a while already, I've been joking with some of my friends that this summer, we'll likely only have money for bread and alioli, but we might be on salinas beach every day which is a place we usually never go to in summer because it's too full. and the longer it takes, the more I realise that what I said might actually be the truth and not a joke at all!

Sold ?

 

[W_I_C]

Amount of cars on road this week is up massively compared to last....

Can't believe they made those figures public. Very silly thing to do. Instantly backfired

 

[FlatErik]

My wedding in Ibiza in July is almost definitely going to be cancelled. We have several elderly guests who, even if it does go ahead, won't be able to attend. I have lost both parents in the year since we booked the villa and venue.... this July was supposed to be the holiday of a lifetime for my extended family and friends and something to look forward to after what's been the worst year of my life.

I'm pissed off. I don't think any of this is fair. I'm worried about my family becoming ill or worse.

What i won't do is say that people who were apparently going to probably die anyway don't matter.

Never said that.
I said that the measures don't outweigh the side effects.....and the side effects can be that our kids and even their kids will suffer from this for years to come. And then we are talking about their quality of life and life expectancy too. If I were 80+ I wouldn't want my kids to suffer from this for the rest of their lives compared to the...5 years I would have left

 

[stivi]

I still have some hope for the late season personally. not so much for the clubs, in a way, at least to me, as days pass, 2020 clubbing seems more and more unlikely now. not just in ibiza, but on a global scale.

it's raining really hard here today, it's good for the island (we again had a winter with far too little rain). and it made me think, IF tourism can happen in the second part of the summer (even if it's without clubs), those people that make it to ibiza, they will get the most unique ibiza they've ever seen (and which they will see EVER). no matter if it's august, the island will NOT be packed, ibiza will be absolutely breathtakingly beautiful this summer. for a while already, I've been joking with some of my friends that this summer, we'll likely only have money for bread and alioli, but we might be on salinas beach every day which is a place we usually never go to in summer because it's too full. and the longer it takes, the more I realise that what I said might actually be the truth and not a joke at all!

I'm just listening to a press conference from the council of ibiza and it's not looking good for the season at all. I'm sure there will be a link later to a newspaper article about it.

 

[cunninghamali]

I'm just listening to a press conference from the council of ibiza and it's not looking good for the season at all. I'm sure there will be a link later to a newspaper article about it.

We all had a feeling sadly... Be interesting to see what they say

 

[cunninghamali]

Sorry to hear about your folks. Not looking forward to that day at all, assuming I last any longer than they do. Nothing is given.

This outbreak has been a kick in the teeth for eveyone at all sorts of levels...

God yeh not looking forward to that day at all

Just goes to show never know what's going to happen

All last year I was talking from Jan 2019 about Oct 2020 for my bday and I am sure other people were making plans too and now look

 

[Springal]

Never said that.
I said that the measures don't outweigh the side effects.....and the side effects can be that our kids and even their kids will suffer from this for years to come. And then we are talking about their quality of life and life expectancy too. If I were 80+ I wouldn't want my kids to suffer from this for the rest of their lives compared to the...5 years I would have left

Why are the side effects? Higher taxation and some global finance recession but we've been here many times, tighten your belts and we go again. Surely that is worth preserving actual life for?