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cunninghamali said:
Yeh I won't travel this year and next year will pretend I am celebrating my 40 even tho I will be 41

Do u think hotels etc will survive and be able to open next year

DJs won't be able to tour as much as they do now...

Even if things were sorted and did get to Ibiz I think be very quiet no atmosphere or clubs
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The big chain hotels/restaurants will be just fine. The local spots might be in trouble unless the government steps in and assists with no interest loans.
 
cunninghamali said:
Yeh I won't travel this year and next year will pretend I am celebrating my 40 even tho I will be 41

Do u think hotels etc will survive and be able to open next year

DJs won't be able to tour as much as they do now...

Even if things were sorted and did get to Ibiz I think be very quiet no atmosphere or clubs
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Time to stand firm on that adage that "age is just a number", right, and enjoy your 40th for another year! ?

So hard to say how much DJs will be able to travel by next summer. It might be that they can travel within Europe but not farther abroad like to the USA. In that case, you might see European DJs wanting to play more Ibiza gigs since if they have fewer options elsewhere.
 
kimajy said:
We have "click 'n' collect" at supermarkets in UK - but you have to book slots to use it at supermarkets and there are no slots available for 3-4 weeks anywhere close to me (for example) - all booked up. Don't even think about home deliveries. So the concept is great but already capacity is overstretched as soon as restaurants closed down.

The real issue round the area I live is that some basics are just unobtainable. There has been no flour or bread available to deliver for example for 2 weeks despite rationing by supermarkets/retailers and major flour producers increasing production massively. So if you hadn't stocked up, if you couldn;t or didn;t want to expose yourself to risks going out to hunt around 4-5 stores for one bag you would now be without any sort of bread to eat. You also can't bake your own without flour. Other basic food and baking items are the same and even seeds to grow your own vegetables are getting almost impossible to buy, boxing people into a trap to having to queue and shop over weeks.

It's a chicken and egg situation - at the start people were asked not to "panic buy". But even after people pretty much finished panic buying and rationing came in the shelves are still empty of those basic staple items. People are asked to trust that there is enough food in the system. I am sure there is, but rather like medical PPE there is simply no logistical capability to get certain items where the demand is so people can access them. Had hoped by now this would be stabilizing, but it is clearly not. These failures to adapt systems and supplies are at the root of the pressures driving people out of their homes, especially people with larger families or trying to shop for others.
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Where do yo live in the UK? I'm from South wales and the shops and food supplies are fine here but when I watch the news I see pictures on the TV of London and people queing for food.
 
is it a requirement in Spain for hotels to be refunding right now? or hotel credit or anything? any info would be great
 
chezchrishide said:
is it a requirement in Spain for hotels to be refunding right now? or hotel credit or anything? any info would be great
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i believe right not it is still left up to the hotels. i believe booking.com (even though they we are not fans) have changed their policy to allow refunds for all bookings, including ones booked at a cheaper price with "non-refundable". melia group the same. best to contact the hotel direct. at the very least they should give you credit for next year, but i there's nothing official afaik. good luck!
 
james said:
i believe right not it is still left up to the hotels. i believe booking.com (even though they we are not fans) have changed their policy to allow refunds for all bookings, including ones booked at a cheaper price with "non-refundable". melia group the same. best to contact the hotel direct. at the very least they should give you credit for next year, but i there's nothing official afaik. good luck!
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thanks a lot for quick response. we already did ask the hotel but they said no. that could be because its not until July and they maybe waiting till closer to the time to see how things go
 
From the Blau Parc Hotel group re cancellations below. Fees waived.

“We inform all our clients who have already booked or are going to book for 2020 on our website that due to the coronavirus health crisis, we eliminate cancellation fees, we want to reassure all our clients who put their trust in us. Blau Parc Hotels are not charging cancellation fees to the intermediaries either, so the travel agencies should not charge these cancellation fees to the client, if it has been your case, please contact us”
 
Woodsy Ibiza 25 said:
Where do yo live in the UK? I'm from South wales and the shops and food supplies are fine here but when I watch the news I see pictures on the TV of London and people queing for food.
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South Devon - and one of the deliveries came from East Cornwall. There's plenty of some things and zero supplies of bread or flour especially. Had deliveries from both Tesco and Waitrose within last 7 days and both came without bread or flour, and with no substitutes for the variants asked for. On the shelves in stores flour is worse than bread for non-availability !
 
kimajy said:
We have "click 'n' collect" at supermarkets in UK - but you have to book slots to use it at supermarkets and there are no slots available for 3-4 weeks anywhere close to me (for example) - all booked up. Don't even think about home deliveries. So the concept is great but already capacity is overstretched as soon as restaurants closed down.

The real issue round the area I live is that some basics are just unobtainable. There has been no flour or bread available to deliver for example for 2 weeks despite rationing by supermarkets/retailers and major flour producers increasing production massively. So if you hadn't stocked up, if you couldn;t or didn;t want to expose yourself to risks going out to hunt around 4-5 stores for one bag you would now be without any sort of bread to eat. You also can't bake your own without flour. Other basic food and baking items are the same and even seeds to grow your own vegetables are getting almost impossible to buy, boxing people into a trap to having to queue and shop over weeks.

It's a chicken and egg situation - at the start people were asked not to "panic buy". But even after people pretty much finished panic buying and rationing came in the shelves are still empty of those basic staple items. People are asked to trust that there is enough food in the system. I am sure there is, but rather like medical PPE there is simply no logistical capability to get certain items where the demand is so people can access them. Had hoped by now this would be stabilizing, but it is clearly not. These failures to adapt systems and supplies are at the root of the pressures driving people out of their homes, especially people with larger families or trying to shop for others. It is not just the logistics of distributing PPE that is essential to keeping the virus spread contained, it is equally if not even more so the need to effectively distribute supplies to the public to decrease their needs to go out.
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toilet paper, water and meat are pretty much all gone at my shop by midday (!) (perhaps we shouldn't have ripped out that bidet...)

psychologically, bulk buying is happening A. because people anticipate other people panic buying and B. because people want to spend as little time returning to shops as possible. massive nuisance (luckily my gf is gluten-free and that shelf is largely untouched)
 
Tourist said:
toilet paper, water and meat are pretty much all gone at my shop by midday (!) (perhaps we shouldn't have ripped out that bidet...)

psychologically, bulk buying is happening A. because people anticipate other people panic buying and B. because people want to spend as little time returning to shops as possible. massive nuisance (luckily my gf is gluten-free and that shelf is largely untouched)
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And the Vegan shelf in the working class stores..
 
Tourist said:
toilet paper, water and meat are pretty much all gone at my shop by midday (!) (perhaps we shouldn't have ripped out that bidet...)

psychologically, bulk buying is happening A. because people anticipate other people panic buying and B. because people want to spend as little time returning to shops as possible. massive nuisance (luckily my gf is gluten-free and that shelf is largely untouched)
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We are doing one shop a week to avoid multiple exposure to potential infection. I'm doing my folks shopping for the week too, as they are in the 70s and Pa Buckley has Parkinsons. It probably looks like I'm stockpiling, but by the time you shop for 4 adults and 2 boys, all permanently at home, for a full week, it mounts up. I've no idea how a single parent with multiple kids in a small place without a sizable freezer are managing. Multiple trips and having to take the kids I guess, who leave them with others against the strictest interpretation of the rules.

Strange times.
 
james said:
i believe right not it is still left up to the hotels. i believe booking.com (even though they we are not fans) have changed their policy to allow refunds for all bookings, including ones booked at a cheaper price with "non-refundable". melia group the same. best to contact the hotel direct. at the very least they should give you credit for next year, but i there's nothing official afaik. good luck!
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Some hotel chains are being proper dicks with this. I had a trip to Vienna end of May, very likely it won't go ahead. Hotel booked + pre paid with the chain Meininger who are a reasonable sized European chain. Their policy is no refunds, they'll let you rebook for free to another date (I was going specifically for a event - so no good) but if the new booking is more expensive you have to pay the extra. If it is cheaper? Tough. They keep the difference.
 
I haven't noticed any panic buying around here tbh besides maybe pasta shelf's a little slim pickings.. northerners finally get something right
 
My work has just accepted a contract to build 6x 1000m2 temporary quarantine areas between Dubai and Abu Dhabi.

In other news - Emirates have got clearance and will be starting to get tourists out of the UAE from April 6th.
 
Buckley said:
We are doing one shop a week to avoid multiple exposure to potential infection. I'm doing my folks shopping for the week too, as they are in the 70s and Pa Buckley has Parkinsons. It probably looks like I'm stockpiling, but by the time you shop for 4 adults and 2 boys, all permanently at home, for a full week, it mounts up. I've no idea how a single parent with multiple kids in a small place without a sizable freezer are managing. Multiple trips and having to take the kids I guess, who leave them with others against the strictest interpretation of the rules.

Strange times.
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totally understandable. I would probably do the same. not resentment on my part, more frustration.

I think the smaller stores are getting one delivery a day - the system's not currently working
 
AntonioGeordio said:
People around here are just buying the essentials ?‍♂️ ?‍♂️

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Mate, you have to get the important things sorted - I was more concerned about getting this stuff than getting food, because you know for sure food will be available in some form whereas the chances of materials deliveries and access being shut down to the general public was much higher. Got decent weather, no point being stuck at home if you can't get people in to do jobs and you can;t get materials to do it yourself. Especially after 6 months of non-stop rain and everything falling apart lol.

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