Well, at least EMA has approved 4 vaccines for use, including the J&J (EU has approved more vaccines than UK, US, ect.). Why is UK delaying it? Maybe somebody needs to cash in first.
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Well, at least EMA has approved 4 vaccines for use, including the J&J (EU has approved more vaccines than UK, US, ect.). Why is UK delaying it? Maybe somebody needs to cash in first.
Isn't the reverse true? AZ is the only one being sold at 'cost price' or whatever, yet Pfizer, J&J etc are 'for profit' ?Well, at least EMA has approved 4 vaccines for use, including the J&J (EU has approved more vaccines than UK, US, ect.). Why is UK delaying it? Maybe somebody needs to cash in first.
Digital2013
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Correct there are some big differences in costs, this is in Dollars but gives an idea:
The advantage of the J&J one is of course 1 dose, so one appointment and less admin but its not as effective, they were thinking before of making that the one for younger people for that reason.
claretclubber
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Come on we've all done it.Anyone see the Slovakia thing? Ordered the Russian vaccine after trials, and the batches they got 'did not look like' the trial samples. Russians asked for them back ....
Slovakia told to return Sputnik V vaccines amid row over their quality
"All Sputnik V batches are of the same quality and undergo rigorous quality control at the Gamaleya Institute," said the official Twitter account of the Sputnik V vaccine.www.euronews.com
You get the tester out of one bag, you walk away from the corner of KFC with a bag from a different pocket - get back to the hotel with nothing but salt
kimajy
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Well, at least EMA has approved 4 vaccines for use, including the J&J (EU has approved more vaccines than UK, US, ect.). Why is UK delaying it? Maybe somebody needs to cash in first.
UK told by J&J we won't see any doses till Summer because they're all going to the EU first so there's really no rush ! Plus it's no better than a single jab of Astrazeneca so if we were looking to follow a booster-less statistics drive to pretend we've fully vaccinated more people than we properly have, we may as well just do 1 AZ and make our orders/stocks "vaccinate" twice the people.
Both AZ and J&J will effectively be obsolete in UK by September. UK will likely approve Novavax very soon and I think they are looking to that as a priority because it's made locally in UK and also seems to work well. Then we can keep all our own supplies for ourselves like everyone else is doing right now when booster time comes along !
If EU keep restricting use of AZ to the over 60s they really should do the same for J&J (and very likely Sputnik V) which means a massive blow for their vaccination programme progress estimates in younger age groups. They'll have to use all their precious pfizer and Moderna in the young !
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soulcompromise
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This month, I'm allowed to get vaccinated. I've heard the side-effects can be significant, but then the virus of course would be much worse.
It's become second nature - wear gloves, mask on, wash hands...
It's become second nature - wear gloves, mask on, wash hands...
kimajy
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Just do it !!
AntonioGeordio
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chez
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third degree gurns, my man.De
Deffo mate
Pre warning, my jaw will be about 5 meters away from my head
I'm ready to read about coronavirus again if I'm honest. Dominating every bloody broadcast. I mean, is there any real need for that? Ridiculous. He wasn't event *that* liked
Gonna attempt to leave the planet when Queenie pops it
Just another excuse for more flagshagging
mr_why
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He’s weirdly one of the few of them I liked. I mean he could go off message, but I liked his not give a sh*t attitude. And I’d imagine the last thing he’d have wanted is any of the back to back broadcasting crap stuff right now.
At least the Beeb are prepared
www.bbc.co.uk
All seems to be tied into royal protocol unfortunately ..
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All seems to be tied into royal protocol unfortunately ..
kimajy
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it's like history repeating itself ... once again swanky ski resort is epicentre of an outbreak that's spread (Brazilian variant) into the local population in Canada and likely further afield >>
www.theguardian.com
Canada ski resort linked to largest outbreak of P1 Covid variant outside Brazil
Whistler, in British Columbia, has nearly 200 of 877 confirmed cases in the province but officials have only a murky idea of how widely variant has spread
kimajy
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Getting to the stage where I just want to get my course completed and have it done with, whatever that means for marginal efficacy. The risk from swithering policies and unreliable supplies is getting far more worrying than the clinical efficacy - which is a sorry indictment of handling by policymakers and counters all the scientific logic of waiting. 80% of people refused Astrazeneca in Sicily (over 60s) because of policies and media scares. I just want mine before someone finds yet another reason why I can't get it !!
In the meantime, have a family friend over 70 in France who can't get an accessible 1st dose appointment before 7th May. Crazy.
Can definitely feel the improved mood today. Went for 'Small Group' session at the gym this morning and the atmosphere was great. Good to be off Zoom and having some proper chat. Then a haircut which felt so good, first one since December 19th ! Got a coffee on the way back and despite the snow and freezing weathers, all the outside seats were taken by groups
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