freakstar
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Strangely enough, I want to be on amnesia dance floored fecked! (Don’t we all?)
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kimajy
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It's what you can do in a small country that's not full of a zillion illegals and criminals whose "human rights" not to have ID and be part of the system are put ahead of the rights of legitimate citizens.
It’s May isn’t it ?
JayDR8
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I believe the announcement is meant to be Monday.
It will likely be that we are planning a traffic light kind of system on which countries you are fine from, which you need to self isolate and which you need hotel quarantine... Then it's too early to provide info beyond that as it's too early.
Grrr.........
Flaming ironic that a supposedly dry mainly muslim country is the one place you can get a sodding pint as normal.
Wonder if they've fully opened the pubs in Gibraltar or Malta...no matter...can't go.p
You can have a pint in most of Spain.
freakstar
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Well Kimajy, it’s free for all of us...now you can actually choose which vaccine you want. Although you are right, it’s easier for us just having a population of 5/6 million. They are actually just building a production facility - guess they realise where in it for the long run. It’s less well off countries I worry about and we probably don’t see the scale of it
kimajy
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That's it - rich country with a small population will always be able to manage better in the long run. UK just has too many people compared to its size and infrastructure. The approach to choice of vaccines (where the country is in a position to) is unsurprising, they don't have the same leanings politically as the UK. In time, I'm sure there will be private sector involvement in choice of vaccine more widely but until then in UK it's a case of take what you can get when it's on the table. Rather like I guess you did with the Chinese one !
The scale of it with less well off countries is mind blowing and a bit like with the global PPE debacle last year the biggest problem here is the supply constraint. I think it'll take a lot longer with vaccines for that issue to resolve, not least because of the need to change formula at relatively short notice but also because of the distribution logistics. We are looking at 5+ years for things to stabilize to the sort of scenario we've got with Ebola for example - if we can even get there at all. In a couple of years the combination of treatment and vaccination options should make the disease very manageable in rich countries but I think there will be a very big impact longer term in the developing world. As to whether the impact even comes close to the damage Malaria does every year I am less sure.
The big difference is of course is that you can't transmit malaria without an insect host confined largely to the 2nd and 3rd worlds. Airborne human-human transmissible viruses (like Covid and TB) pose a particular risk in the developed world that eyes cannot be closed to and "civilized" societies are no longer accustomed to facing. I can understand the knee jerk response of governments to shield their own populations as best they can before helping others. It's just a macro extrapolation of the logic of vaccinating critical workers and key workers within a country before moving on to the most vulnerable. There's no such thing as global altruism over life, never has been never will be. What the world really needs to guard against is complacency and taking the foot off the accelerator when the West feels it has things under control at home. Since there will be an ongoing need for boosters etc. there is a real risk that cycle crowds out the developing world for far too long.
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freakstar
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Indeed, it seems the Chinese one I had is finally about to get WHO approval - they are saying that it could actually be best for new variants as you are basically getting a full dose of COVID to build immune system - although, of course, you need to take what you hear like a pinch of salt. Some of my colleagues have been waiting for the option of Pfizer (despite my work setting up a free vaccination place) which they are getting now but really who knows - take what you can I would say.
Hally
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My mother and father in law just got the Chinese vaccine, in very rural Pakistan, so it's getting around
On a less positive note my wife went over at the start of March to look after them as father in law was very ill. Booked one of the few flights home avoiding the Red List, a couple of days later and Pakistan is added
That's £1750 I won't see again
On a less positive note my wife went over at the start of March to look after them as father in law was very ill. Booked one of the few flights home avoiding the Red List, a couple of days later and Pakistan is added
That's £1750 I won't see again
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2H76
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Feeling SO much better today; had a game of outdoor hockey with my club pals in the sunshine. Felt SO normal (apart from the sunshine) and not a mask in sight. Strange how we can all spend an hour bumping and barging into each other - yet we can't sit at an outdoor cafe distanced.
Anyway, my cloud's been lifted for a wee while, hope everyone else's is too with whatever activity you can do this weekend.
Anyway, my cloud's been lifted for a wee while, hope everyone else's is too with whatever activity you can do this weekend.
kimajy
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I miss group training a lot. After paying subs for a year through online stuff I never got into and some spells back I didn't want to go to I have finally cancelled my membership today. After so much shielding I just can't see me feeling OK about interacting like this again any time soon. Even once everyone at home is fully vaccinated the mood here is that we need to carry on avoiding people so no group sessions, events, holidays or anything like that. Unless I move away from here on my own like I used to I don't see this changing. So maybe that's the way forward for me but I don't want to get closed out of coming back for the whole Summer which is what's likely to happen if I walk out.
Feel like I'm between a rock and a hard place, trapped, with no way to go in any direction other than to carry on as things have been for the last year for another year. By that stage I think this place will be beyond my walking out on for a few weeks away. Either that or just sell everything up, re-home my mum somewhere she can be independent, break up and go back to living on my own. Been mega depressed today. Everyone else seems to be getting their lives back and I can't see any prospect of me getting any aspects of mine back whatever is actually allowed. The mood may change but for now it's as if nothing is easing for me.
I really hope you are OK @kimajy. The easing of restrictions is bringing hope to so many , but equally I know so many people who are feeling really anxious about it all. It's still that unknown.
Keep talking about your concerns, even if it's just on the forum. Big love to you x
kimajy
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Thx. I don't usually go off on such a negative these days but feel like the events this pandemic has catalyzed cost me what little bit of freedom of mind and choice I used to have. I never spent 365 days a year with anyone since I was a kid and frequently had weeks and weeks away to live my own life as I wanted it. Home isn't a "lock up and leave" sort of place and there needs to be someone fit, young and willing enough to hold the fort so to speak if I'm not here. Just feel like I don't have that any more and there's too much whinging about me doing even the most basic little things for myself if anyone else is affected in any way. Never signed up for a deal with those terms of reference
Probably just being selfish but I'm used to having a lot of autonomy for long periods and I've realized that being accountable to other people and consulting over doing day to day things isn't something I can live with without resenting it. I'm not really "relationship material", never have been never will and don't apologize for it because it's my basic nature. I enjoy measured exposure to other people for limited periods, to stop me going introverted and remain able to function in the wider world, and then I want my own company again. So living with others on any other terms for massively long periods of time was never going to be an easy ride
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news of club events
Clubs officially opening after the COVID19 pandemic
Still so hard making plans, had a pre sale link for Paradise and Ciroloco at ADE, but then thinking I might wanna spend my remaining cash and holiday on a late Ibiza trip. Just wanna go everywhere right now!
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COVID-19: Holiday update from PM tomorrow as dates revealed for UK's first 'vaccine passport' events
Boris Johnson is launching "vaccine passport" and pre-event testing pilots in April, including at three key Wembley matches.
JayDR8
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If only we'd gone down the swedish route with no restrictions hey?
www.thelocal.se
Swedish government extends coronavirus measures for restaurants, shops and gyms
Sweden has extended several of its coronavirus measures, including restricted restaurant opening times and customer limits in shops, as a result of the current high spread of infection.
So easy to judge. I have lost a job and all of my savings, also hugely in debt because nobody went down the Swedish route. Can barely put food in my mouth. And Im still considered well off if I talk to my work mates.If only we'd gone down the swedish route with no restrictions hey?
Swedish government extends coronavirus measures for restaurants, shops and gyms
Sweden has extended several of its coronavirus measures, including restricted restaurant opening times and customer limits in shops, as a result of the current high spread of infection.
So easy to work from home because you can and judge people. There is no sympathy from anybody for hospitality people.
Save your irony. Look around. Be a little more considerate. Because we have, Understanding fully the seriousness of this disease and doing our bit. But nobody gives a crap about that.
freakstar
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Man...I know what exactly you need...last minute flight, all nighter, sleep in the car and swim in the morning
2H76
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Press reports that we will introduce a red/amber/green system for foreign travel; looks like Spain would be "red" but surely isolated islands could be raised into the green category?
The system would require one test before departure and two on arrival; no news on how you would actually do that.
The system would require one test before departure and two on arrival; no news on how you would actually do that.
kimajy
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It would sort pretty much everything out. Used to be so easy, Even if travel was unrestricted there's not a chance in hell of me getting to do that in the foreseeable months.
freakstar
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Keep the faith...something to look forward to!
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