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I think the refund of postponed tickets will be the next big issue. I like I suspect many have been happy with the 'same time, same place, just 1 year on' thing with postponed gigs. But if they get delayed any futher my mood will change.

The bigger issue will be cash / capital. For many festivals they use this years ticket money for next years outlay. Booking DJs , staff chats etc . Having a year without selling tickets will certainly hurt 2022
 
I think the refund of postponed tickets will be the next big issue. I like I suspect many have been happy with the 'same time, same place, just 1 year on' thing with postponed gigs. But if they get delayed any futher my mood will change.

I appreciate the hospitality industry is having an awful time, but they cant keep peoples money hostage forever.

It's unfortunate at a time when consumer confidence is already at a low, that some outfits can't see the long term effect of their actions.

Fortunately there are lots of decent promoters and ticketing platforms that have amended their T&Cs or already had sufficient ones in the first place. The same goes for travel firms.

As a society we have become pretty blasé to the tedium of smallprint. The reality is the endless pages of legal jargon have long needed an overhaul. Hopefully we can meet a middle ground between consumer and industry
 
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I was discussing this earlier and I honestly felt safer flying this summer compared with walking along Brighton seafront.

Plus planes are now properly sanitised beforehand and are MUCH cleaner than pre-lockdown.

The days of boarding an EasyJet / Ryanair plane which had only just been emptied and sitting on a seat covered in crisps / crumbs / empties is over (for now!).
 
I was discussing this earlier and I honestly felt safer flying this summer compared with walking along Brighton seafront.

Plus planes are now properly sanitised beforehand and are MUCH cleaner than pre-lockdown.

The days of boarding an EasyJet / Ryanair plane which had only just been emptied and sitting on a seat covered in crisps / crumbs / empties is over (for now!).
I haven't heard of one case involving cabin staff. Perhaps there are, statistically there must be, but if flight crews were going down the papers would be full of it.
PS - Brighton's sea-front is safe, I'm not there at the moment!
 
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It's not exactly honest, since the majority of these 1.2 billion probably traveled before the coronavirus spread around the globe (air travel went down massively since the start of the pandemic).

But with masks and good ventilation in planes, air travel must still be very safe. Birthday parties at home and other similar stuff are much scarier than spending a few hours in a well ventilated aluminium tube.
 
Are people accepting that this isn't false positive tests etc and things are actually getting serious again?
 

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Are people accepting that this isn't false positive tests etc and things are actually getting serious again?

I believe it is getting worse again, but the lack of use of the Nightingale hospitals has baffled me for months, surely having spent millions to set them up its better to keep all the infected people there than regular hospitals? Which in turn of course frees up space for other operations and treatments.
 
I believe it is getting worse again, but the lack of use of the Nightingale hospitals has baffled me for months, surely having spent millions to set them up its better to keep all the infected people there than regular hospitals? Which in turn of course frees up space for other operations and treatments.
You would think, but in reality the staff you move to them would leave the main hospitals limited in what they can do. In theory you have better staff utilisation at a nightingale (1 member of staff looking after more patients) but in practice there just won't be enough staff?‍♂️
 
Are people accepting that this isn't false positive tests etc and things are actually getting serious again?
There are still quite a few Covid19 skeptics around here. I don't think you can convince them with rational arguments, it's more a matter of belief now. If you show their arguments to be incorrect, they will simply change the topic and claim the numbers are only growing because more and more tests are being done, or that there is no proof the virus will continue spreading at the same rate, or that the situation isn't bad yet and thus there is no reason to worry. Really pointless to argue, I am just glad the majority here in the country supports and follows anti-Covid measures.

Current numbers here in Germany aren't bad (currently 590 Covid patients in ICU, with over 7,000 ICU beds still available). But the number of ICU patients is growing steadily, it's just a question of time until we run out of capacity.
 
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Haven't the government said ICU level is higher than it was in March? Or did I mis-read / misunderstand?

I think mean people in hospital with covid, not intensive care, but I could be wrong and it wasn't clear. We do have more capacity now though.

Which begs the question "Why did they build them...."

I think its if/when shit hits fan, they can have covid only hospitals (nightingales) which the already stretched staff can then manage more patients than a regular hospital. That is what afaik is mentioned on the plan documents for nightingale layouts (1 nurse can manage x number of beds etc)

But ultimately if it got real bad it means at least patients have a bed to lay/die in, even if not enough staff. Looks a bit better than people piled in corridors in normal hospitals ?‍♂️?
 
I think its if/when shit hits fan, they can have covid only hospitals (nightingales) which the already stretched staff can then manage more patients than a regular hospital. That is what afaik is mentioned on the plan documents for nightingale layouts (1 nurse can manage x number of beds etc)

Sounds like a more appropriate name might be Nightingale Hospices
 
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