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kimajy said:
Both a drop in the ocean when you compare to UK - lost in a weekend what Switzerland lost in total, and lost in a week what Sweden lost in total !!
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thats what they thought though until they came out about the results being wrong last week so we wont know if it has been worse yet, yet to see the scale in which they were out by
 
Germany with over 800 infections. At the best times we had less than half. Lets see ,if ist a exception or a trend.
See a lot of people who dont care corona , specialy in the bigger cities. They sit in cafes and without distance and
protection. Dont hope , we get a 2nd wave with lockdowns and everything.
This is similar to other coutries ...
 
"The results being wrong" is spin. This is a salvage expo because they've realised they f***ed up big time. But it's more their policies, than the figures, which are broken. The readjusted numbers are going to represent a drop in the ocean. Anybody hoping that they've got things completely wrong will be disappointed.
It was always going to come down to excess death figures.
I worry the number is going to be higher when you factor in all scenarios:

white_isle_calling said:
- died of the virus
- died with the virus (contributing factor)
- died because of a scaling back of health services
- died by suicide because of the mental effects of lockdown
- died because of reluctance to seek medical assistance
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So we need to be careful to scrutinise what they mean by "we've got the people who died from Covid-19 wrong"
 
white_isle_calling said:
"The results being wrong" is spin. This is a salvage expo because they've realised they f***ed up big time. But it's more their policies, than the figures, which are broken. The readjusted numbers are going to represent a drop in the ocean. Anybody hoping that they've got things completely wrong will be disappointed.
It was always going to come down to excess death figures.
I worry the number is going to be higher when you factor in all scenarios:



So we need to be careful to scrutinise what they mean by "we've got the people who died from Covid-19 wrong"
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A agree with that, but the figures I would like to see is primarily who died souly because of the virus not any additional factors ..only then will we know if lockdown / shutting the world pretty much down was actually worth it. If it is infact nearly in line with other seasonal bugs then why have masks not been mandatory when there is other lurgys if it is helpful with this
 
chez said:
??? never had a flu shot, never had the flu.. besides a very minor sore throwt or slight cold every other year maybe (runny nose) I barely get ill or run down ..ones at work often say have you not even had your flu jab? Or simular things our work will actually pay for? "Nope" to someone sneezing and shivering most of winter
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I've always had flu jab (free from work) and never had the flu either?‍♂️. So guess throw ya dice take your chances. (Polio, measles and so on)

As for the vaccine changing DNA, erm that not how they works. RNA in some form that get "ran" by the cell to produce protein spikes for the body to make antibodies to. Or others are a disabled version of the virus which still creates an antibody response which is still just RNA. (There are other vaccine methods too)

You might mean crispr which is a way of editing dna, but that would fail safely tests and be very evident. The vaccines are gonna be extra scrutinised, it also wouldn't generate an antibody response afaik. Also they said even oxford one wont be available next year as the larger trials for safety testing will take at least that long.

Oxygen is actually toxic at certain partial pressures. I'm more worried about the microchips that can fit down the bore of a needle and control people #starTrekIsntReality. ?

Happy Friday ?

Edit: ps it won't be mandatory we gonna march you to your docs and force you to have it. Well except maybe in China ?

Pps: as much social contact as possible? Lol, troll fridays?
 
MrHullMysterious said:
I've always had flu jab (free from work) and never had the flu either?‍♂️. So guess throw ya dice take your chances. (Polio, measles and so on)

As for the vaccine changing DNA, erm that not how they works. RNA in some form that get "ran" by the cell to produce protein spikes for the body to make antibodies to. Or others are a disabled version of the virus which still creates an antibody response which is still just RNA. (There are other vaccine methods too)

You might mean crispr which is a way of editing dna, but that would fail safely tests and be very evident. The vaccines are gonna be extra scrutinised, it also wouldn't generate an antibody response afaik. Also they said even oxford one wont be available next year as the larger trials for safety testing will take at least that long.

Oxygen is actually toxic at certain partial pressures. I'm more worried about the microchips that can fit down the bore of a needle and control people #starTrekIsntReality. ?

Happy Friday ?

Edit: ps it won't be mandatory we gonna march you to your docs and force you to have it. Well except maybe in China ?

Pps: as much social contact as possible? Lol, troll fridays?
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Is it healthy to be kept away from family friends or loved ones..
 
craig72 said:
So we've been told
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? can't tell if you're on a troll friday or what lol.
Look at usa infections graph. Relaxed lockdown, bars open people socialise.

But does America exist if you can't see it?

At any rate people are welcome to do what they feel is right, just be mindful a lot of the propaganda disinformation is russian backed (Putin speciality was that while working at KGB) with aim of destabilising west and its institutions, which is working.

Anyhow home gym time!


If only people distrusted random social media posts as much as the government ??
 

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I went to the shop earlier with a mask on for the first time...facking annoying if I'm honest. Cant see it being much fun in the heat of Ibiza...you do definitely find yourself lifting it down occasionally, especially when your sunglasses get steamed up! haha
 
Ibizapaul said:
I went to the shop earlier with a mask on for the first time...facking annoying if I'm honest. Cant see it being much fun in the heat of Ibiza...you do definitely find yourself lifting it down occasionally, especially when your sunglasses get steamed up! haha
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I have exact same problem with glasses. Found if cut strips of kitchen roll, roll up and stick to inside top bit, stops vapour coming out top and steaming you up.

Btw that vapour is what new evidence is showing possibly can carry the virus (5 micron or less droplets) and asymptomatic people could be emitting, thus spreading it. Those small droplets hang in the air for ages compared to a sneeze droplet. Masks aim is to make them either stick to the mask (hence it gets damp) or at least stop them getting up and out so far.

As for people saying its infringing their rights,
a) how much of an inconvenience is it really besides been told what to do

b) do you drive on both sides of the road? No. Why? Cause it's for yours and others safety. Don't hear protests saying I want to drive on both sides of the road do ya! ?

Let's hope next year is better eh?
 
MrHullMysterious said:
I've always had flu jab (free from work) and never had the flu either?‍♂️. So guess throw ya dice take your chances. (Polio, measles and so on)
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I had my MMR jabs as a small child...I went to the Doctors a few years ago with a lump on my neck, after 2 different doctors checked me over they said the think I had mumps. I said that's impossible i've had my jabs, they said oh it doesn't always work. Great 24 years old and I have mump, missed a great party that night :(
 
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