Not far off. The "poor" with a poor diet, added to smoking, drinking, lack of exercise, maybe long working hours and all that kick off with a disadvantage over those who have private health care, gym memberships, quality food etc etc. Think that has been proved in the figures, and the lower you go down the chain - ie to workers cramped together in pitiful conditions the more Covid cases/deaths there are.But this virus is only here to affect the working class. The rich and the posh are immune to it...
This guy is seriously losing credibility every time he opens his mouth....Oh look...
We were talking about the difference between lock down and no lockdown. Sweden did better than lots of places that locked down. So how can you say lockdown worked? That was my point.
What’s the significance of Switzerland here? Or we just gonna cherry pick any country that supports our arguments? Cos we can do that for both sides quite easily.Sweden (population 10 millions) did NOT better if you compare with Switzerland (population 8.5 millions)
Swiss cases: 34.000. Deaths: 1975.
Sweden cases: 78.600. Deaths: 5667.
Aren't the Swizz neutralWhat’s the significance of Switzerland here? Or we just gonna cherry pick any country that supports our arguments? Cos we can do that for both sides quite easily.
however there are lots of other factors at play too. For example. The use of hydroxychloroquine...
What’s the significance of Switzerland here? Or we just gonna cherry pick any country that supports our arguments? Cos we can do that for both sides quite easily.
however there are lots of other factors at play too. For example. The use of hydroxychloroquine...
What’s the significance of Switzerland here? Or we just gonna cherry pick any country that supports our arguments? Cos we can do that for both sides quite easily.
however there are lots of other factors at play too. For example. The use of hydroxychloroquine...
Sweden (population 10 millions) did NOT better if you compare with Switzerland (population 8.5 millions)
Swiss cases: 34.000. Deaths: 1975.
Sweden cases: 78.600. Deaths: 5667.
Same can be said for most conditions/diseasesNot far off. The "poor" with a poor diet, added to smoking, drinking, lack of exercise, maybe long working hours and all that kick off with a disadvantage over those who have private health care, gym memberships, quality food etc etc. Think that has been proved in the figures, and the lower you go down the chain - ie to workers cramped together in pitiful conditions the more Covid cases/deaths there are.
Enlighten me then? I said sweden did better and worse than some european countries. Making the point that lockdown doesn't achieve much.You don't seem to see the obvious.
From what I gather reading up and watching parts of the exchange, he is basically saying the partial lockdown in uk before 23rd was already reducing the R rate. Not what some are implying that the virus was dying out "naturally".Oh look...
No I’m simply offering data that has been showing another side to all this.From what I gather reading up and watching parts of the exchange, he is basically saying the partial lockdown in uk before 23rd was already reducing the R rate. Not what some are implying that the virus was dying out "naturally".
Additionally the lockdown on 23rd while hard did get the R value down faster. After all look at current infection/admission/death rates now we are opening up. Bumping around the same rate and infections creeping up slightly. (Do remember the horse races and liverpool match which where super spreader events at all btw?)
It does read you are trying to push a narrative of it's been blown out of proportion and no need for lockdowns/restrictions; just have a word with Brazil's grave diggers who can't keep up (or in some parts of africa too!). Maybe that isn't your intent, but it does read that way to me?
At which point have I said the health staff aren’t heroes? They’re great. We’re very lucky to have them. But the truth is almost all of my friends who work in the NHS had their hours reduced April to July because the hospitals were under occupied. Some bad outbreaks in big cities, definitely. Not denying that at all. Millions of lives saved? I don’t think so, countries that didn’t lockdown prove that theory wrongif you genuinely believe this has all been exaggerated then you are an attention-seeking psychopath. Millions of lives have been saved. Medical staff were exhausted. my mum was stuck indoors alone for 4 months and suffered real depression but at no point did she blame the Sp government, or health staff who were absolute heroes.
At which point have I said the health staff aren’t heroes? They’re great. We’re very lucky to have them. But the truth is almost all of my friends who work in the NHS had their hours reduced April to July because the hospitals were under occupied. Some bad outbreaks in big cities, definitely. Not denying that at all. Millions of lives saved? I don’t think so, countries that didn’t lockdown prove that theory wrong
There aren't many cities that size in the world, thats a bit of a specific request. And i'm not claiming to know anything anyone else doesn't. I'm just showing you the data that is contrary to what you think and you're getting upset about it?! seems oddshow me a comparable densely populated city to Barcelona that didn't apply lockdown? I'd be very interested to compare. I'm not scoring points. I don't pretend to be an expert. I'm genuinely intrigued by what you know that the rest of us don't.