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There are some drugs which work maybe ( no vaccine ). Vaccine comes later.
Maybe we can be live nearly normal then : If there is a threathment which works for 9 of 10 serious infected what does it mean ?
Ok , 1 left is a tragedy , but I think we can live 80 Percent of normal life then.
It will not work with zero victims , sorry ( low number of victims will happen )
Even with a vaccine you will not have zero victims , but a very low number.

The question is : What will the society accept ? Whats ethical acceptable ?
 
feynman said:
There are some drugs which work maybe ( no vaccine ). Vaccine comes later.
Maybe we can be live nearly normal then : If there is a threathment which works for 9 of 10 serious infected what does it mean ?
Ok , 1 left is a tragedy , but I think we can live 80 Percent of normal life then.
It will not work with zero victims , sorry ( low number of victims will happen )
Even with a vaccine you will not have zero victims , but a very low number.

The question is : What will the society accept ? Whats ethical acceptable ?
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Having the annual flu jab doesn't stop pneumonia, now a high % of those will survive, some (like my parents) won't and the survival rates will depend on age and pre-conditions. So something like that should be the ethical guideline.
 
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Didnt expect to wear a mask/faceshield soon, but im ready as it will be required in France when taking train/metro,to go to office
This is a real issue our government was not prépared,those ones for Healthcare people,i cant imagine them have enough regular ones for all people.(at beginning we were told Dont use regular mask as useless and now Required to wear them ..??)

From may 11th It will be weird to see all people with masks? ?
Es Vedra, see u in min 18months 2 years ?
Last time closing19 ,asking a mate to make a video with a skull faceshield in front of es vedra,he switched to mirror option and was filming his face ?,i noticed it few hours later and it was very hot/sunny there n didnt check ,thanks lord a girl had a video with her cellphone :D,so had a souvenir from this ride...
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Tourist said:
would gas masks work? there's one gathering dust at the local army surplus store
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Modern NATO military issue respirators are designed to sustain life in environments contaminated with things like nerve agents and other horrendously potent chemicals and gases.

Although they are only good if the filters are in date and not damaged. I’d recommend buying new filters that are in sealed packs as it’s the only way to be sure.

Stay clean shaven too, to ensure a good face seal.

Practice masking correctly and swiftly too. Aim for a full face seal in 5 seconds.

‘Mask in 5 to stay alive’ popular saying in southern Iraq 2003 ? ?

Wearing one for any period of time is seriously degrading though, especially in warm environments.
 
AntonioGeordio said:
Back pages of the Bild.

Don’t pretend you don’t know ??
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And in the nose there is the weed storage.
There is a little fetish shop in c de virgen I remember. Maybe have to ask there.
Whats the english name for it ?
Dickmask , leather black , zip version ?

Btw : Nice people ( owner ) in this shop. Not only Fetish wear. Some nice clothes which you can not get at wal mart
 
feynman said:
And in the nose there is the weed storage.
There is a little fetish shop in c de virgen I remember. Maybe have to ask there.
Whats the english name for it ?
Dickmask , leather black , zip version ?

Btw : Nice people ( owner ) in this shop. Not only Fetish wear. Some nice clothes which you can not get at wal mart
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gimp
 
AntonioGeordio said:
Modern NATO military issue respirators are designed to sustain life in environments contaminated with things like nerve agents and other horrendously potent chemicals and gases.

Although they are only good if the filters are in date and not damaged. I’d recommend buying new filters that are in sealed packs as it’s the only way to be sure.

Stay clean shaven too, to ensure a good face seal.

Practice masking correctly and swiftly too. Aim for a full face seal in 5 seconds.

‘Mask in 5 to stay alive’ popular saying in southern Iraq 2003 ? ?

Wearing one for any period of time is seriously degrading though, especially in warm environments.
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Yeah , good for loung poisons or someting.
Not good for contact poison as vx or something. But this is horror . Dont want to think about
 
ElrowLovers said:
I think bars, restaurants, sport locations, events, clubs, big shopping malls will maybe ask for an ID and not allow people over 60. I know, it sounds weird, but it might be part of our way out of this.
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poor over 60s people stuck at home on lockdown for the next 18 months

while the young out about.....
 
Austria have announced that they are going to allow some cafes and restaurants to reopen from mid May. Will be some, as yet to be announced, restrictions.
 
CasaNegron said:
Everyone seems very certain that we can develop a vaccine for this. Researchers have been attempting a vaccine for many high-profile viruses for decades that have never come to fruition (HIV?).

We need to be prepared for a variety of scenarios.
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Hiv has a different mechanism as corona as I understood. If corona is a bastard , Hiv is a big bastard. Absolute deadly.

Is there any healed from Hiv ? Cannot remember to read this . Only treathment ,as I remember

They told , it seems possible to develop a
vaccine. I hope and believe.
Other scenario is a drug
 
cunninghamali said:
poor over 60s people stuck at home on lockdown for the next 18 months

while the young out about.....
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if that was one option, which meant the vulnerable are safe self isolating still and economies were saved sooner then I don't see the problem tbh if there's a way not everyone / every country has to suffer then its worth a shot surely

a lot of people will be feeling there is no point to life if they become homeless or have their businesses ran into the ground
 
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feynman said:
Is there any healed from Hiv ?
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In the US we have a celebrity basketball player, Irving "Magic" Johnson. He caught it like 30 years ago... many remember him from the Barcelona Olympics. Still alive and well and apparently they can no longer detect the virus in his system. But there are a lot of conspiracy theories involving his particular case.

Southpark (american adult satire cartoon) did a funny episode featuring him.

Edit: I forgot that Tony Pike said that he had it (in his book), and he lived to be 80 or something...
 
stivi said:
I'm not as pessimistic as you guys.
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Same. There will be a full season next year. In the next few months we are going to learn a ton about this virus and ways to treat it while the vaccine is being worked on. Fingers crossed from antibody testing that far more people have already been infected as previously thought.

I think we will have therapies that greatly reduce deaths by end of this summer and a vaccine by early 2021.
 
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