Veils on women

is this really any different to other religions who seem to bizzarely have a code of dress for some reasons, Look at jewish men and women, why is it the men always were black suits with those ridiculous hats and have beards, and why do their wives look like marks and spencer victims wearing the same thick tights, tweed skirts and bob hair styles.

This why i have no religion and have little respect for any religion either. If someone wants to believe in some greater being,,,then great, but why have the fancy dress out fit to label yourself as part of the gang.

i detest religion and all the trappings that go with it.

Why do you have no respect for SOMEONE ELSE's religion and what they wear.... How doea an Orthodox Jew walking down the road have any effect on your life.

So their religion is important to them... if its not to you...fine! If it is to them... fine!
 
Why do you have no respect for SOMEONE ELSE's religion and what they wear.... How doea an Orthodox Jew walking down the road have any effect on your life.

So their religion is important to them... if its not to you...fine! If it is to them... fine!

surly someone can say if they are offended by a certain religion or not without offending?
 
maybe it is really a fettish thing.

wonder if they sell rubber viels lol

I see absolutely no difference! Seriously.

I know that was supposed to be in jest but religion is all about being at the mercy of another...or in bondage.

Organised religion is no different to S&M - in fact it's an SM practice in itself.
 
is this really any different to other religions who seem to bizzarely have a code of dress for some reasons, Look at jewish men and women, why is it the men always were black suits with those ridiculous hats and have beards, and why do their wives look like marks and spencer victims wearing the same thick tights, tweed skirts and bob hair styles.
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As an aside has anyone heard / seen that Orthadox Jewish Reggae/Rap star from New York...thats one that flies in the face of any pre-conceptions or stero-types...:D

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12992670/wid/7279844/
 
As it happens in India I intend on buying some traditional dress, probably a salwar kameez, which is the tunic and loose bottoms that most Indian women wear, simply because it's the coolest and most easy to wear item of clothing out there!

That's your WLS Opening costume sorted then Bec :lol:
 
surly someone can say if they are offended by a certain religion or not without offending?

how is the way someone dresses ( even if its a 'rule' for their religion) offensive.. I honestly don't see how they can be offended.

This whole thread makes me sad :cry: :cry: most of these views sound like something coming out of redneck Alberta.... not theopen-minded cross-cultural board I thought it was...
 
I see absolutely no difference! Seriously.

I know that was supposed to be in jest but religion is all about being at the mercy of another...or in bondage.

Organised religion is no different to S&M - in fact it's an SM practice in itself.

good link. Reglion also like to inflict pain upon one another
 
Why do you have no respect for SOMEONE ELSE's religion and what they wear.... How doea an Orthodox Jew walking down the road have any effect on your life.

So their religion is important to them... if its not to you...fine! If it is to them... fine!

I dont think lcoverdale was disagreeing with you, he's (or she, i get this wrong sometimes ;) ) just saying that wearing a veil is similar to jews wearing the hats.
 
how is the way someone dresses ( even if its a 'rule' for their religion) offensive.. I honestly don't see how they can be offended.

This whole thread makes me sad :cry: :cry: most of these views sound like something coming out of redneck Alberta.... not theopen-minded cross-cultural board I thought it was...

No they are not. Of cource clothes can offend people.

Old people would probably be scared sitting next to a hoddie, or punk, so what differnce is there with someone being offerend due to not knowing what a person looks like.

if a group of people walked upto be and I could not see any of their faces I'd be scared, whether they are wearing a veil or a helmet
 
I dont think lcoverdale was disagreeing with you, he's (or she, i get this wrong sometimes ;) ) just saying that wearing a veil is similar to jews wearing the hats.

.... yeah I got that part now... its not even wake-up time yet here !:lol:
 
What about these ;)

Nuns.jpg
 
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I find it ironic that the veil is being blamed for increasing separatism. One of the key drivers in the growth of Muslim extremism is the feeling that their religion is under attack from the west. By calling such attention to this small issue, the press is just exacerbating the situation. I saw a headline the other day (think it was the evening standard) saying 'Muslim Cab driver bans guide dog'. Deliberately incindiary articles like that and the stuff they publish in the Daily Hate Mail is neither representative nor helpful - I think it's time the press to some responsibility for what they print.
 
how is the way someone dresses ( even if its a 'rule' for their religion) offensive.. I honestly don't see how they can be offended.

This whole thread makes me sad :cry: :cry: most of these views sound like something coming out of redneck Alberta.... not theopen-minded cross-cultural board I thought it was...

I am very open-minded. But that doesn't mean I have to agree with a woman covering herself head to toe in a black sheet. I don't feel there's any place for it in Modern Society. Yes if a woman really does want to cover herself like that, fine, who are we to judge? But sadly I would guess that 90% of Muslim women who wear the full Burkha do it because of opression, not out of personal choice.

IMO that is not being open minded.
 
No because you can see their faces!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's the whole point for fcks sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!


(whoops I was supposed to have left ages ago)
 
Do these women offend people?

No, like I've said before. If the hair and neck is covered but the person's face is still visible it still makes them a PERSON... not just a silent black sheet moving along the street!

Besides, they're nuns!! And that is their most extreme form of dress. They wouldn't wear that shopping in Tescos would they?
 
Ferd...Im a guy (check my profile)

I have no respect for religion as i am not religious...end of!

neither do i detest the person who is religious, just the religion they stand for. The whole concept is just so hypocritical.

If there is such a thing as a greater being, a creator, why is that there is so many different religions which believe in so many different gods...which one is right?

We all seem to accept that religion is a logical concept and thinks its wrong to belittle the subject, however if we all said we believe in santa claus and walked round in santa claus outfits we would all be sectioned under the mental health act and ridiculed. Whilst i may have digressed slightly, my point still remains in that it seems so pathetic IMO for people regardless of what they believe to think they have to justify it with the clothing they wear.

Kind of reminds me of youth culture accept one step further, when your kids to sort of link yourself to a group to get an 'identity' such as goths, skinheads, metal heads, punks, mods....bla blah.
 
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I find it ironic that the veil is being blamed for increasing separatism. One of the key drivers in the growth of Muslim extremism is the feeling that their religion is under attack from the west. By calling such attention to this small issue, the press is just exacerbating the situation. I saw a headline the other day (think it was the evening standard) saying 'Muslim Cab driver bans guide dog'. Deliberately incindiary articles like that and the stuff they publish in the Daily Hate Mail is neither representative nor helpful - I think it's time the press to some responsibility for what they print.


Yes...did you see the front page of the Sun last Saturday.."Muslims attack war hero's" or something like that...designed to stoke up and create more problems in an already tense situation

It was a completely biased piece of reporting that only portrayed one side of an ongoing conflict between local youths and a Muslim dairy factory owner who allegedly wanted to convert part of his factory into a Mosque.

Obviously both sides in that case were contributing to the rising tensions but the way it was portrayed was ridiculous and irresponsible
 
No, like I've said before. If the hair and neck is covered but the person's face is still visible it still makes them a PERSON... not just a silent black sheet moving along the street!

Besides, they're nuns!! And that is their most extreme form of dress. They wouldn't wear that shopping in Tescos would they?

funny you say that I only said it because I saw a nun in dress walking out of Tesco about 30 mins ago.
 
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