Plans for a “NEW” San Antonio

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white_isle_calling said:
They do like to knock us... and yet, we make it incredibly easy for them.
Genuine question, as I don't know: that's 4 (at least) young men from the UK dead this summer - 2 as the result of fights, another who was involved in a fight before he turned up dead - how many other deaths have there been?
Assume there's probably been one or more involving different nationalities, just it's passed me by. Curious to know.
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I’d say it’s like the shark attacks in Egypt you don’t hear about the real story
Loads of road deaths as normal !!

Just going to throw this out there ,

Since the music genres like grime/rap/r-b/Edm have hit the island, have they brought trouble

Thoughts
 
Vinyldreams said:
I’d say it’s like the shark attacks in Egypt you don’t hear about the real story
Loads of road deaths as normal !!

Just going to throw this out there ,

Since the music genres like grime/rap/r-b/Edm have hit the island, have they brought trouble

Thoughts
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I couldnt say if they have brought trouble to Ibiza, but I remember both Cream and possibly the Hacienda stopped drum n bass nights in the 90s due to the bad atmosphere in the clubs on those nights.

For me (and it might only be me!) it seems like a watershed year for San Antonio. Early finish in west end, accompanied by low attended bars / clubs , murders / deaths. Very sad.
 
there is a whole debate to be had about the UK's historical social problems which is probably a debate people are not going to get too deep into on here but that is where the real solutions need to be found. This is NOT a Spanish problem. Yes, there are plenty of other Spanish social problems (eg husbands killing their wives, endemic corruption, people losing their homes) but pointless street thuggery in general is not a big phenomenon here. When five guys (including a Guardia Civil) gang raped a woman at the Pamplona bull run a few years back it was all over the news and still is. People are still shocked by that story here, whereas I think Britain has become desensitised to constant tabloid sex scandal headlines which make innocent Spanish resorts sound really seedy and then hey guess what they genuinely become really seedy because the infrastructure and market is now in place! The UK media has done so much damage in selling a horrendous view of Spain to tourists for decades, which has helped turned it into a magnet for all the scumbags and it explains why people here are have become so resentful. And then hey people wonder why San Antonio eventually gets fed up!
 
Google translate is fantastic...

As reported by a spokesman of the medical emergency service of 061, at 2210 hours yesterday they received a warning that a young man had rushed from the fourth floor of the Tanit building in Sant Antoni. The toilets could not do anything to save the life of the victim except to certify his death.
 
Quite apart from all the physical improvements it is making, San Antonio is also making adjustments to its idea of the desirable customer. At the moment roughly half their tourists come from the UK. Much as the town is grateful to the British, it appears to want fewer of them. "It was a mistake to dedicate so much of our effort to the British market", said Senor Linares.
They want people with more money. The average expenditure, or 'spend' in marketing terminology, by a San An package tourist on a two week holiday is scandalously little.
Above all, they don't want any more louts. As as anyone who read a newspaper in the summer will know, San Antonio gained a reputation as a place where a certain type of British male liked to come for his holidays. The UK press was crammed with stories of drunk and disorderly Brits roaming the streets at 4.00 a.m. and puking in the fountains, beating up Germans and terrorizing old ladies who made the mistake of walking home through the wild West End.
Some people think it's too little, too late and taking too long. Nobody wants cheap all-in package tours anymore, they say, and if they did they wouldn't come to a place where you can't see the sea from your high-rise hotel for a forest of other high-rise hotels. "San Antonio has panicked," said Brian Newman. "In my view all they're doing is putting gold-plated hinges on the door after the horse has well and truly bolted".

The above is taken from Paul Richardson's 'Not Part of the Package', a book written in 1991. Amazing that we're still having the exact same conversation every summer nearly 30 years later. The only thing that seems to have changed is that it's now way more than half the tourists in San Antonio that are British, and that gratitude that was still evident in 1991 has probably long gone.
 
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craig72 said:
Everyone chucked out of bars at same time only adds to more problems..
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also makes you realise how shit the clubs and bars that can stay open till 6?7?am are in the san an area

the kids would rather sit on a damp beach , sniffing gas that you get at a dentists, then go to a "super club"

towns fecked send in the air support
 
Horrified Onlooker said:
Think the Brexit lads got it all the wrong way round. We shouldn't be vetting who comes in to the country, we should be vetting who gets to leave it

Exhibit A:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-woman-81-claims-benidorm-13075153
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Upset Elderly Lady Gets Stitched By Tabloid Journalist

"The pensioner says the travel operator Thomas Cook had even recommended the hotel and despite her request for flat ground access, it was located on a slope instead."

"My friend and I paid for it from our pensions and it was a struggle trying to fund it over 12 months and the holiday was totally ruined - I cried after.

"We wanted to go somewhere on flat ground and not in the hills because we have mobility issues.

"To top it off once we got to reception they told us we had been put on the 14th floor, thankfully we were moved to the second floor, and that it was 42 steps down to the hotel's swimming pool."

The pair travelled 1,500 miles from Manchester Airport to Alicante on May 10, after not being notified by Thomas Cook that the dates of their flights had changed."
 
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