OllieNotts
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I was hoping it was sarcasm as hes normally very complimentary on ibiza town....
Plans for a “NEW” San Antonio
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McRackin
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update: tables, chairs etc will have to be removed before 11pm (one hour extra on weekends)... that makes a bit more sense!To avoid noise problems and with the idea of bringing back more people to live in the area, the 50 bars and pubs in the West End won't have terrace at night from now on... Now that's a big change!!!
http://www.diariodeibiza.es/pitiuse...ntoni-retirara-terrazas-nocturnas/884012.html
http://www.diariodeibiza.es/pitiuse...t-antoni-obligara-cerrar-terrazas/885783.html
Nostalgic
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Agreed. Take a look at how the police look after the tourists over the water in benidorm. Completley cleaned it up, just by patrolling. I went in June . Not one looky looky or dirty street corner prozzie
McRackin
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Matutes plans to do in San An the same than in PDB...
http://periodicodeibiza.es/pitiusas...lo-platja-bossa-renuncia-plan-excelencia.html
... to change the "non-interesting drunk tourism" for wealthy people!
http://periodicodeibiza.es/pitiusas...lo-platja-bossa-renuncia-plan-excelencia.html
... to change the "non-interesting drunk tourism" for wealthy people!
balearic joe
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...non interesting drunk tourism,to non interesting wealthy bores,hangers on, and wannabe vip ponses!
I read this through Google translate,so the translation my not be perfect.
Matutes wants to implement the so called 'plan of excellence' this sounds more like the final solution to me. Maybe they will replace the egg with a bronze statue of Able Matutes?
I read this through Google translate,so the translation my not be perfect.
Matutes wants to implement the so called 'plan of excellence' this sounds more like the final solution to me. Maybe they will replace the egg with a bronze statue of Able Matutes?
McRackin
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both mayors went to the courts today after es paradis and privilege denounced them... instead of admitting their line-ups are a bit rubbish they blame the lack of punters in their clubs to daytime venues like ocean beach club, blue marlin, etc:
http://www.diariodeibiza.es/pitiuse...cires-defienden-actuaciones-ruido/892130.html
RIDICULOUS!
djedwardsmith
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I mean, they do have a bit of a point, daytime venues are sucking up a lot of the cash that used to be spent in the likes of Es Paradis/Privilege, or various other 'expensive' night time attractions.
My issue with that however is that it's not necessarily that people aren't still spending at night, it's moreso that they're being smarter with how they spend it.
My issue with that however is that it's not necessarily that people aren't still spending at night, it's moreso that they're being smarter with how they spend it.
balearic joe
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Maybe es paradis should open it's roof fill its pool,Stock up on champagne and sparklers,that would then fill it full of wankers and fit in to the 'new San an' and ibiza... job done?
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balearic joe
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I also think installing gold cherubs resembling able matutes would do them no harm,and comply with the Matures,so called plan of excellence..
stivi
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craig72
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And 90% of the people want to post day time pictures of how much fun they are having with their shirt off.
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MauroPicotto
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Very well said...
Amp and Deck
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obv those guys are increasingly desperate and will play dirty in the courts but the broader case they are making will hit a nerve
Now, the shift to daytime events is happening in mainland Spain too and the UK as well. The appeal for councils is that they have to worry about fewer noise complaints from neighbours who can't sleep. Staff/cops/emergency services probably prefer to work in the daytime too. So everyone's a winner right?
well not exactly...
the kinds of events that are put on in the daytime are more regulated and therefore more controlled and for anyone into this kind of music, that defeats the whole point. who actually WANTS to be controlled?
But on a broader point - the psychological excitement of going out at night in the dark is being lost. Through the ages, the freaks came out at night, that whole thing with the moon channeled our inner freaks - a parallel universe where anything was possible. All the best club photographs over the decades were taken at night or in the dark. It feels to me like the authorities are now saying, you can go out but only on our middle class, family friendly, back home in time for bedtime terms. and that to me sucks...
Now, the shift to daytime events is happening in mainland Spain too and the UK as well. The appeal for councils is that they have to worry about fewer noise complaints from neighbours who can't sleep. Staff/cops/emergency services probably prefer to work in the daytime too. So everyone's a winner right?
well not exactly...
the kinds of events that are put on in the daytime are more regulated and therefore more controlled and for anyone into this kind of music, that defeats the whole point. who actually WANTS to be controlled?
But on a broader point - the psychological excitement of going out at night in the dark is being lost. Through the ages, the freaks came out at night, that whole thing with the moon channeled our inner freaks - a parallel universe where anything was possible. All the best club photographs over the decades were taken at night or in the dark. It feels to me like the authorities are now saying, you can go out but only on our middle class, family friendly, back home in time for bedtime terms. and that to me sucks...
Padster
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The Ibizan
It’s War!
A war between the traditional clubs of Ibiza and the new breed of hotels and beach clubs offering open air music has begun.
The owners of Privilege and Es Paradis, two of Ibiza’s oldest discos which have been operating since the 1970s, have denounced the mayors of San Jose and San Antonio, who they accuse of allowing the ever expanding open air venues of ‘flouting permitted noise levels’.
The mayor of San Jose, Josep Mari Ribas, and his San Antonio counterpart, Jose Tur, have been reported by the clubs for failing to prosecute a crime, specifically against the environment by not controlling the noise and music of several venues.
The complainants state that they have spent millions of euros in recent years to soundproof and cover their nightclubs following regulations, which forced party establishments to enclose their venues to avoid noise pollution.
“We spent about 6m€ on the soundproofing of Privilege” said Jose Maria Etxaniz, one of the clubs partners as reported in El Pais. Etxaniz went on to say that some of his counterparts “have been ruined” in attempting to comply with noise regulations.
Their complaint argues that these regulations are not being applied in the flourishing music hotel sector, who offers concerts and outdoor events with apparent impunity. They also complain of the beach club sector, which has proliferated in recent years, and they say have live music without the same regulations being applied. “What was prosecuted and persecuted a few years ago in our establishments has appeared again at other venues with no action taken by the authorities” affirm the complainants.
Privilege and Es Paradis employed a private detective to take decibel readings in several hotels and beach clubs. These regularly recorded sound at around 100dB where the maximum allowed is at most 65dB “the municipalities do nothing and the local police are far more concerned with the taxi’s arriving at the venues than they are noise regulations” said lawyer of the public prosecution Joan Cerda.
The detectives report was included in the complaint together with a similar commission by the political party Epic in 2013 which stated that noise pollution on one of the hotels identified reaches residential areas over 3km away.
Reacting to the complaints, San José’s mayor Ribas stated that their town hall have initiated more than 200 cases against those breaching noise regulations. “We cannot be accused of doing nothing against certain premises,” he said after appearing before the judge hearing the complaints.
San Antonio mayor Tur reported to the proceedings that the borough have filed 2 complaints through the criminal court against venues accused of breaching noise regulations.
El Pais reported that both mayors consider themselves victims in what they consider is a business battle between the clubs.
It’s War!
- Ibiza’s old school clubs declare war on new generation of open-air venues.
A war between the traditional clubs of Ibiza and the new breed of hotels and beach clubs offering open air music has begun.
The owners of Privilege and Es Paradis, two of Ibiza’s oldest discos which have been operating since the 1970s, have denounced the mayors of San Jose and San Antonio, who they accuse of allowing the ever expanding open air venues of ‘flouting permitted noise levels’.
The mayor of San Jose, Josep Mari Ribas, and his San Antonio counterpart, Jose Tur, have been reported by the clubs for failing to prosecute a crime, specifically against the environment by not controlling the noise and music of several venues.
The complainants state that they have spent millions of euros in recent years to soundproof and cover their nightclubs following regulations, which forced party establishments to enclose their venues to avoid noise pollution.
“We spent about 6m€ on the soundproofing of Privilege” said Jose Maria Etxaniz, one of the clubs partners as reported in El Pais. Etxaniz went on to say that some of his counterparts “have been ruined” in attempting to comply with noise regulations.
Their complaint argues that these regulations are not being applied in the flourishing music hotel sector, who offers concerts and outdoor events with apparent impunity. They also complain of the beach club sector, which has proliferated in recent years, and they say have live music without the same regulations being applied. “What was prosecuted and persecuted a few years ago in our establishments has appeared again at other venues with no action taken by the authorities” affirm the complainants.
Privilege and Es Paradis employed a private detective to take decibel readings in several hotels and beach clubs. These regularly recorded sound at around 100dB where the maximum allowed is at most 65dB “the municipalities do nothing and the local police are far more concerned with the taxi’s arriving at the venues than they are noise regulations” said lawyer of the public prosecution Joan Cerda.
The detectives report was included in the complaint together with a similar commission by the political party Epic in 2013 which stated that noise pollution on one of the hotels identified reaches residential areas over 3km away.
Reacting to the complaints, San José’s mayor Ribas stated that their town hall have initiated more than 200 cases against those breaching noise regulations. “We cannot be accused of doing nothing against certain premises,” he said after appearing before the judge hearing the complaints.
San Antonio mayor Tur reported to the proceedings that the borough have filed 2 complaints through the criminal court against venues accused of breaching noise regulations.
El Pais reported that both mayors consider themselves victims in what they consider is a business battle between the clubs.
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