Kent Kid
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Still don't agree Kimajy, to me and all my pals it doesn't affect us at all, and it certainly doesn't kill any atmosphere in places I go. We don't even notice it.
If someone pays 60 euro or 15 quid for a ticket they should be allowed to take any photo they like of them having fun. I don't know any DJ or promoter who has an issue with it.
Sure I've seen the groups of 18 year old girls taking 100's of selfies outside Mambo, and 1 girl videoing herself dancing in Sankys for 5 mins but I don't give a monkeys and it doesn't spoil it for me, hell i even do it, Bysie at Coxys closing And JPW AT Magna.
If someone pays 60 euro or 15 quid for a ticket they should be allowed to take any photo they like of them having fun. I don't know any DJ or promoter who has an issue with it.
Sure I've seen the groups of 18 year old girls taking 100's of selfies outside Mambo, and 1 girl videoing herself dancing in Sankys for 5 mins but I don't give a monkeys and it doesn't spoil it for me, hell i even do it, Bysie at Coxys closing And JPW AT Magna.
kimajy
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That's just it though - it's about YOUR perception, YOUR selfies and YOUR outlook, being so self-absorbed in your own preferences that you can't even understand why someone else may feel differently. It's a thing about life today and something which has gone horribly wrong with the explosion of social media.
I guarantee you that if you had your phones and cameras taken away at the door and were forced to go get mashed in a PROPER club where really anything goes, you have to concentrate on the music and talking to other people in the place rather than yourself and your group, you might start to understand why this is a bad thing for a proper atmosphere and how different things are when all that is stopped. There's no risk of being caught on someone's home movie, or Youtube, and no chance of taking anything away beyond the memories. You will notice a change in people and how they interact with the dancefloor and each other. You never know you might just like it !
Basically this thread can be whittled down to 2 separate types of people: those who have consideration for their fellow clubbers, and those that don't.
You. Are. There. To. Dance. Not earn a BTEC in filmography.
Whatever you may think different, I can assure you that you are wrong.
You. Are. There. To. Dance. Not earn a BTEC in filmography.
Whatever you may think different, I can assure you that you are wrong.
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Kent Kid
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That's just it though - it's about YOUR perception, YOUR selfies and YOUR outlook, being so self-absorbed in your ownpreferences that you can't even understand why someone else may feel differently...
You need to look in the mirror pal, that quote covers you as well.
Iam not there just to dance, Iam there to make friends, check out the DJ's and the club and to take a picture if I wish , all of which I do regular. I went raving when phone cameras didn't exist and I wish I had photos of those times as well but carrying a camera the size of your fist was impractical.
You need to look in the mirror pal, that quote covers you as well.
Iam not there just to dance, Iam there to make friends, check out the DJ's and the club and to take a picture if I wish , all of which I do regular. I went raving when phone cameras didn't exist and I wish I had photos of those times as well but carrying a camera the size of your fist was impractical.
You're completely missing the point. (Deliberately?) Have some damn respect for other people.
I may like to take selfies/videos/photos. The point is: a lot of people wouldn't want me to!!!! And therefore I don't. It's really that simple. Capishe?
The same goes for any number of anti-social behaviours in clubs. The list is endless.
See also: farting, barging, stealing drinks, pickpocketing, masturbating, harassing women etc. etc.
^^^ Some people believe those thing to be okay, believe it or not. But that fact remains that they are not by the vast majority.
It's nothing to do with my perception. It's social etiquette. It's about RESPECT.
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Kent Kid
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White isle you need to put your dolly back in your mouth, we are having a debate on a forum about selfies in clubs , a debate so maybe you should respect other people's views, but of course you don't have to agree with them, as I don't yours.
I don't know how on earth how taking a picture in any way compares with masturbating' stealing drinks or harassing women but each to their own, you obviously think it does, so yes....defo missing your point on that one.
You are giving your view that people don't want people taking pictures in clubs, but how do you know what the " vast majority" think.....quite simply...you don't.
Just because someone doesn't agree with some of the comments isle boy, it doesn't mean they are doing it deliberately....it means they have a different view
Capishe ??
I don't know how on earth how taking a picture in any way compares with masturbating' stealing drinks or harassing women but each to their own, you obviously think it does, so yes....defo missing your point on that one.
You are giving your view that people don't want people taking pictures in clubs, but how do you know what the " vast majority" think.....quite simply...you don't.
Just because someone doesn't agree with some of the comments isle boy, it doesn't mean they are doing it deliberately....it means they have a different view
Capishe ??
I am not for one minute insinuating that taking a photo is on par with sexual assault. My point merely being that what some people think is acceptance others (most) do not.
Acting like you're Steven Spielberg in a crowded, confined environment designed for the purpose of dancing falls under that criteria.
If you don't understand that then you're either an idiot, or deliberately missing the point. Which is it?
It smacks of hypocrisy that you say "maybe you should respect other people's views" when you quite clearly do not.
I'll repeat myself: have. some. respect.
Or ill rephrase it: put your wankerwand down, you clown, and start dancing.
Acting like you're Steven Spielberg in a crowded, confined environment designed for the purpose of dancing falls under that criteria.
If you don't understand that then you're either an idiot, or deliberately missing the point. Which is it?
It smacks of hypocrisy that you say "maybe you should respect other people's views" when you quite clearly do not.
I'll repeat myself: have. some. respect.
Or ill rephrase it: put your wankerwand down, you clown, and start dancing.
You've taken particular offence to the general stance, because you happen to take selfies/use a stick.
But please be aware that this stance covers all activities that could be construed as being annoying/anti-social in a clubbing environment.
It's about using your noggin.
"Could me doing x, y or z potentially upset anyone"
If the answer is "yes" perhaps you shouldn't do it. Or, at the very least, scale back the regularity of you doing it. It's about common courtesy to your fellow man. Or in this case, your fellow clubber.
It's not limited to clubbing either. You should hold the same degree of scrutiny to your behaviour in all social situations. There's a time and place for everything. But somethings are better left in private.
But please be aware that this stance covers all activities that could be construed as being annoying/anti-social in a clubbing environment.
It's about using your noggin.
"Could me doing x, y or z potentially upset anyone"
If the answer is "yes" perhaps you shouldn't do it. Or, at the very least, scale back the regularity of you doing it. It's about common courtesy to your fellow man. Or in this case, your fellow clubber.
It's not limited to clubbing either. You should hold the same degree of scrutiny to your behaviour in all social situations. There's a time and place for everything. But somethings are better left in private.
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kimajy
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A few DJs like Dixon very outspoken about cameras in clubs. Good on them. Digweed gets fed up with it too - you very seldom see any at a Bedrock night but that's all about the crowd it attracts. Only a few clubs left where you can get physically thrown out for taking a piccy - Berghain, Concrete etc. - and they're definitely some of the best clubs left. No coincidence. Actually Concrete are very polite about it and would just ask you to stop, Berghain would strong-arm you out of the place and make sure you never dared to try to come back if they caught you.
I guess these awful habits have become so prevalent they are now 'normalized' so I'll stick with the "abnormal" thanks. No-one has the right to force other people to accept a culture shift they detest or to say that because the (alleged, often silent) majority of clubbers think it's OK we all have to put up with it. Taking photos which risk catching other people in them is an infringement of their basic privacy and in some cultures they equate it to stealing a person's soul. Taking photos of yourself everywhere is just plain vanity and narcissism, neither of which are qualities I personally feel should be encouraged.
I'm sure cameras wouldn't be too welcome in those clubs where this goes on
I guess these awful habits have become so prevalent they are now 'normalized' so I'll stick with the "abnormal" thanks. No-one has the right to force other people to accept a culture shift they detest or to say that because the (alleged, often silent) majority of clubbers think it's OK we all have to put up with it. Taking photos which risk catching other people in them is an infringement of their basic privacy and in some cultures they equate it to stealing a person's soul. Taking photos of yourself everywhere is just plain vanity and narcissism, neither of which are qualities I personally feel should be encouraged.
I'm sure cameras wouldn't be too welcome in those clubs where this goes on
kimajy
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... and to think if they'd only opted for fisting instead they'd probably have been OK !
kimajy
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On one occasion I recall a Sunday night session where the local drug dealer/gangster fraternity arrived with an entourage of strippers, cue a very public live lesbian show.
They weren't thrown out
It's not WHAT you wear, it's HOW YOU WEAR IT !
ibizainside
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Since when has masturbating in clubs been a thing? It seems a lot more popular these days, especially in Ibiza!
I've never masturbated in a club, nor felt the need to, but there are some, I've seen it happen!
I've never masturbated in a club, nor felt the need to, but there are some, I've seen it happen!